To be fair, and I hate to play Devil’s advocate to this bullshit, but the US tried to share their “lessons learned” with Israel. The US repeatedly told Israel to not go full in like the US had done in Iraq and Afghanistan (read Felluja). After Fallujah, the US changed tactics and took a more “small strikeforce”, infiltrate and assassinate approach. Israel basically told the US to shut the fuck up and just started blasting.
There’s nobody better in the world to tell you how to avoid war crimes than someone with decades of experience in committing war crimes.
The US repeatedly told Israel
While sending them 3 billion a year, if they wanted them to stop they would threaten to stop sending the money.
You’re right. If the US stopped sending them money their military budget would only be 20 billion a year.
So anyway, they started blasting…
Tired of “every political problem is US fault,” so I’m kicking the can.
Anything you want to blame on the US is Britain’s fault.
They failed to suppress the colonial revolution, and odds are, also caused whatever problems the US gets told to go police as the UN lapdog.
Blame the Romans!
I blame proto indo Europeans
Fuckin Lucy
What have they ever done for us?
Aqueducts?
What?
Roads.
Apart from the sanitation, the medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system, and public health … what have the Romans ever done for us?
Brought peace?
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It seems to me that this is the one political position the author has: “America bad.” And everything follows from there. Russia invades Ukraine: Actually it’s America’s fault, because NATO expansion is violating non-existent treaties. Israel bombs Gaza and does the crimes against humanities: Actually it’s America’s fault, because Israel is just imitating America.
This seems like the usual “what aboutism” from Russian or Chinese propaganda.
What Israel did is really really bad, but America didn’t force them to do it. And America’s response of unconditional support is also bad, but they generally didn’t want this conflict, because it’s not useful to their agenda.
America does enough bad stuff, no need to invent more.
Decades of US unconditional support for Israeli war crimes.
And general meddling in other countries in the name of preventing the spread of communism
That hasn’t been the rallying cry in decades.
You’re right. Before communism we did it to get cheap bananas. And after communism we did it because we created a bunch of terrorists that we now had to fight.
Wild how it happened under the last president then.
The attempt failed. This isn’t really the McCarthy era anymore. Interestingly, that article doesn’t even mention communism.
No it doesn’t. you need to have the context that Venezuela nationalized their oil industry during the Obama years. Was sanctioned, and the sanctions were redoubled under trump.
Nationalizing industries isn’t necessarily communism, but it is the issue the US oligopoly has with Communism.
preventing the spread of communismencouraging democracy and freedomLike continuously bribing the Pakistan army to remove the elected government
Tbf the people currently most involved in incidentally preventing the spread of communism are edgy internet communist teenagers.
Sure. Its the US’s fault. Now stop.
It’s worth giving the article a read. It compares US attacks in Iraq with Israel in Gaza, and draws comparison with the “human shield” excuse that both have been using to dismiss civilian casualties. It also goes into the US’ weak interpretation of the Geneva convention and how Israeli lawyers are basically saying “they got away with it, so should we!”
The article doesn’t say it was the US’ fault, it says that the US paved the way.
Ok sure.
The US paved the way. Now stop.
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Oof. There’s so much conflation and handwaving here it really reads like propaganda that requires buy in on an concept first.
Sure, US policy in Middle East was far from ideal, but example given in article for US massive bombardments were about fight with ISIS. I do not think you can get moral ground by criticizing that. ISIS should have been fought and exterminated.
Yes there is parallel with what Israel is doing with Hamas. But use this analogy to think about that it is not as black and white as most people here pretend to be.
Right now every participant in conflict has committed numerous crimes. There is ho moral high ground for anybody. Every side is lying through their teeth to achieve their goals. People of Israel and Palestine are dying while selected few in Israeli and Palestinians get richer and consolidate power in their hands. Both sides have been solidly brainwashed against each other. It’d take enormous effort to stabilize things. I have not seed anyone fitting the bill.
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3 billion per year to genocide supported by “left wing” Democrats
We don’t have left wing politicians. We have a corporate party and a corporate fascist party.
I agree 100%.
Neither democrats nor republicans are actually left wing. And both groups vote en masse to give Israel money.
I agree, it’s shameful.
Are you saying 3 Billion people die each year to genocide?
No, they’re saying the US gives Israel $3 Billion a year to commit genocide with
Ok, that makes more sense. I must have had a stroke.
