• happybadger [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    It’s wild to me that the largest local protest I’ve seen- not BLM, not Medicare for All, not climate change, not anti-vax or pro-choice or any of the other recent issues- was 100-ish university students spontaneously protesting for Palestine and chanting that Biden is guilty of genocide.

    The democrats are really underestimating how badly their zionism will backfire. Like hell would I ever vote for one who isn’t vocally pro-Palestine now.

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    Maybe something to do with the fact that so many innocent Palestinians are being killed despite the media calling it a “Israel-Hamas” war that have no connections to Hamas. I know that it changed the minds of a few liberal-minded family members, even before this so-called war even started

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      The fact that even the most progressive outlets have to call it a war instead of calling it what it is (a genocide) is proof we live under fascism.

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        I thought about that as I typed it. To call it a war is to legitimize it as a war between two armies. The kill counts of civilians is way off course to call it a proper war. It’s been said said before and I’ll say it again, They warned to evacuate to South of Gaza, they bombed South of Gaza. They bombed hospitals saying it was Hamas, now they switch to saying Hamas operates under the hospitals. They aren’t even trying to ACT like this isn’t a genocide anymore. If this isn’t Lebensraum, idk what is.

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        Not necessarily. Genocide is the mass murder of a particular group. Ethnic cleansing is the removal of a particular group from an area. Now, you absolutely can ethnically cleanse an area through genocide, but you can also warn them to leave the area “for their safety” and once they’re out never let them come back.

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            It literally took two seconds to search for each definition.

            genocide /jĕn′ə-sīd″/

            noun

            1. The systematic and widespread extermination or attempted extermination of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group.
            2. The systematic killing of a racial or cultural group.
            3. The systematic killing of substantial numbers of people on the basis of ethnicity, religion, political opinion, social status, or other particularity.

            ethnic cleansing

            noun

            1. The systematic elimination of an ethnic group or groups from a region or society, as by deportation, forced emigration, or genocide.
            2. The mass extermination or expulsion of people belonging to one ethnic or religious group by those of another.
            3. The mass expulsion and killing of one ethnic or religious group in an area by another ethnic or religious group in that area.
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              I think the distinction is that ethnic cleansing is a more general term and genocide is a more specific term. An ethnic cleansing can theoretically not involve murder though this is all a bunch of semantics lawyering and I’m sure conversationally they are often used interchangeably.

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                That is correct. Ethnic cleansing is the act and genocide is a method. The reason it is important to make the distinction is because somebody, in this case Israel, can ethnically cleanse an area without necessarily committing genocide. Because there was no mass murder, no genocide, the media tends to shy away from using the term ethnic cleansing even though it definitely happened.

                Jack wants to occupy the house. Jack scares the inhabitants away with threats of violence. Jack occupies house. That’s ethnic cleansing without genocide.

                Jack wants to occupy the house. Jack kills the inhabitants of the house. Jack occupies house. That’s ethnic cleansing with genocide.

                EDIT: Autocorrect is evil.

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              “The systematic and widespread extermination or attempted extermination of a national, racial, religious, or ethnic group.” == “The mass extermination or expulsion of people belonging to one ethnic or religious group by those of another.”

              So all you did was copy-paste, no real reading; or you’d have seen you made Nakoichi’s point for him.

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                You’re being serious aren’t you? You really don’t process it.

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    They are closer to the age group that isntrael is murdering than the boomers, and boomers are self-absorbed sociopaths that can’t imagine other people and their humanity.

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    Does it mention Russian and Chinese disinformation where Putin and Xi seductively whisper pro-Hamas talking points in your ears while you sleep?

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    Hi GenZ here, we’re just tired of politicians doing nothing but licking the boots of corporations and financing genocides yet ignoring the ongoing climate crisis that will kill all of humanity if we dont do something about it. It is our future that is in risk, not the one of the boomer politicians and we need to take action for it.

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    I very much suspect that TikTok is going to be banned on some level within the next few months. It’s been a hot topic for a while but now that the zionists are directly being impacted because of it, I expect shit to change soon.

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    I didn’t watch the video because I have a lot of bad experiences with TL;DRtubers, how bad is the video?

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      It’s not bad bad, but it’s also not very interesting. They mostly talk about it in demographic terms and stay clear of any actual politics.

      Edited for spelling

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        shrug so I didn’t miss out on anything by not watching it.