Apple user here. Can confirm. My excuse is that Apple knows its shit and I am at the period of my life where just thinking about SUDO gives me allergy. So, as long as I do not have to deal with that shit, I am OK paying for this shit. Hell, I am paying for ChatGPT so that it does internet search for me and summarizes the results for me. My time is more valuable for me than dealing with that shit.
Not suggesting that my way is right way. Many people do like to play with that shit, customize it, fine tune. Those are not users for apple ecosystem. To each their own shit. It is nice to have a choice of shit.
I’m not a part of the apple ecosystem, but i have the same attitude towards tech these days. I dont want to be spending time debugging and tuning stuff just to get it working. Tech is tools, that shit just needs to work, fuck tinkering with everything just to get it working properly.
I feel the same, but find things getting shittier and shittier. I’m paying more and more for less and less. Then I stumble on an open source project that does all that I want and it’s free.
Bitwarden vs LastPass
Joplin vs Evernote
A million different foss projects for all the shit Google has shut down…
Sometimes spending a little time setting stuff up, ends up saving a huge hastle migrating away from the commercial project that is going to fail unless they fuck over their users.
I’m so lost here… Have you ever even tried using a brand new Android phone, or Windows computer? Your comment suggests that no, no you have not.
Like, hey, you do you. Mac and iOS are totally fine. But don’t spread nonsense about Apple being easier. It’s not easier in any way. In fact, I genuinely find iOS to be more complicated in recent years.
You do not need to “tune” an android phone or windows computer. Like… I honestly don’t know what that even means.
I own and fix all types of devices, and apple devices are often some of the most problematic. They do NOT “just work”, but you know what that’s from? It’s from Apple’s marketing campaign rolled out years ago by Steve Jobs.
Did you even read my comment? In the very first sentence i say "i am not a part of the apple ecosystem…i said tech (both HW and SW) needs to be easy and ready to go out of the box, i didn’t say android phones and Windows weren’t. It was mostly a comment towards FOSS alternatives which are often not.
You replied to someone that strongly asserted that non-Apple devices are convoluted, difficult to use, and confusing. You did so by agreeing that you also hate difficult to use, confusing, and convoluted technologies.
This struck me as disingenuous. I apologize if you are, indeed, not an Apple fan in an active state of disingenuity. This said, if you are to be believed, then I don’t understand what your comment was adding to the conversation here. Was your entire point truly that you simply dislike confusing technology? Did that really need to be said?
I’m so confused… Do you think android and/or windows users use sudo? That’s a Linux thing… Macs run on an off-shoot of Linux.
Android and iOS are very similar to all “basic” users. Android simply allows super users (ironically this is related to sudo) to use commands if they reeeaaally want to. Although, to be fair, you need an unlocked phone for that.
Normies, are just allowed third party apps like ReVanced that let you skip YouTube ads for free. Do you not like that ability? If so, you can pay. Google loves that. Google owns Android. We’ve done a loop-dee-loop now, I do believe.
I admittedly know less about Android today. But I chose iOS when Android was quite bad. With iPhone I am not afraid, for example that if I lose or break it, then I need to spend any significant amount of time to setup new iPhone. Couple clicks and the new phone is in exactly in the same state as the old one. Same apps, same files, everything. Maybe Android become better today, I do not know for sure. But I heard enough of the stories from my friends about difficulties because the new Android phone runs Android of different version than the old phone, so, some programs are missing, some things are different and so on.
With Windows, while it is also becoming better, it is still plagued with some hardware driver bugs, etc. For half a year, for example, my computer would just refuse to go to sleep automatically. I tried everything I could find on internet - no luck. Then one day, it just fixed itself for no reason. The update system also for some reason fails to install some updates. And the sound output constantly switches to monitor speakers which I do not have.
My iMacs - zero issuers. They just work. My iPhones - zero issues. My iPads - zero issues. Single convenient ecosystem. Oh, add Apple Watch there as well.
With iPhone I am not afraid, for example that if I lose or break it, then I need to spend any significant amount of time to setup new iPhone. Couple clicks and the new phone is in exactly in the same state as the old one. Same apps, same files, everything.
That is exactly how Android phones work as well, and they have for many years. I think my last phone that needed a third party app to do things like transfer contacts was the Samsung Galaxy S4 (2013).
I recommend you check out the competition. I say this purely because I want more consumers to be critical of big brands and their latest offerings. If everyone intelligently assessed devices when they came out without a bias, I genuinely believe all of the devices we use (Apple, Google, Samsung, etc.) would be far better in just about every way, including their price.
Instead, Apple has set a long-standing precedent amongst the majority of their user-base that their devices are so good you don’t need to compare them against their own competition. This has been so successful that it’s led to other companies like Samsung and Google to adopting Apple “design choices” (non-replacable batteries, sealing devices so they are difficult or impossible to repair, removing the headphone jack, etc.) that end up being incredibly bad for all of us consumers.
The latest phones these days are a joke. Google, Apple, Samsung… they are pretty much ALL jokes that are nearly identical to the previous years model.
I used Linux at home and work for 15 years - 1998 through 2013 - and finally I was Jesus fucking Christ, I don’t want to spend 5 hours configuring a video card ever again, and bought a MacBook. It’s funny these days seeing people “I USE ARCH BRO” because I know I could but I just don’t get enjoyment out of it these days. Same with phones. I couldn’t give less of a fuck about rooting my phone or running a custom ROM.
Hell, I am paying for ChatGPT so that it does internet search for me and summarizes the results for me
Does ChatGPT even do this? I thought it was trained on a closed data set from 2021. While it can learn new things through conversation, it doesn’t actually search the internet anymore. Right? It’s literally just predictive text on your phone. It’s supposed to make you feel like it’s answering you but it’s all smoke & mirrors.
The paid version does that. The data set is expanded to sometime in 2023 and it actually browses internet when needed using bing as search engine. It does lots of other interesting things, such as uses Dall-E to draw images when needed, or uses python and executes the code in background when needed (but you can check it). For example, if you ask a numerical question that requires solution of equations, it will do it in python. An example of such question I recently asked is “at what temperature the value in Kelvin and Fahrenheit is the same?”
Apple user here. Can confirm. My excuse is that Apple knows its shit and I am at the period of my life where just thinking about SUDO gives me allergy. So, as long as I do not have to deal with that shit, I am OK paying for this shit. Hell, I am paying for ChatGPT so that it does internet search for me and summarizes the results for me. My time is more valuable for me than dealing with that shit.
Not suggesting that my way is right way. Many people do like to play with that shit, customize it, fine tune. Those are not users for apple ecosystem. To each their own shit. It is nice to have a choice of shit.
I’m not a part of the apple ecosystem, but i have the same attitude towards tech these days. I dont want to be spending time debugging and tuning stuff just to get it working. Tech is tools, that shit just needs to work, fuck tinkering with everything just to get it working properly.
I feel the same, but find things getting shittier and shittier. I’m paying more and more for less and less. Then I stumble on an open source project that does all that I want and it’s free.
Bitwarden vs LastPass Joplin vs Evernote A million different foss projects for all the shit Google has shut down…
Sometimes spending a little time setting stuff up, ends up saving a huge hastle migrating away from the commercial project that is going to fail unless they fuck over their users.
Yeah i do also use a bit of FOSS, and it has been increasing lately, but I still stick to projects with as little fidgeting required as possible.
I’m so lost here… Have you ever even tried using a brand new Android phone, or Windows computer? Your comment suggests that no, no you have not.
Like, hey, you do you. Mac and iOS are totally fine. But don’t spread nonsense about Apple being easier. It’s not easier in any way. In fact, I genuinely find iOS to be more complicated in recent years.
You do not need to “tune” an android phone or windows computer. Like… I honestly don’t know what that even means.
I own and fix all types of devices, and apple devices are often some of the most problematic. They do NOT “just work”, but you know what that’s from? It’s from Apple’s marketing campaign rolled out years ago by Steve Jobs.
Did you even read my comment? In the very first sentence i say "i am not a part of the apple ecosystem…i said tech (both HW and SW) needs to be easy and ready to go out of the box, i didn’t say android phones and Windows weren’t. It was mostly a comment towards FOSS alternatives which are often not.
You replied to someone that strongly asserted that non-Apple devices are convoluted, difficult to use, and confusing. You did so by agreeing that you also hate difficult to use, confusing, and convoluted technologies.
This struck me as disingenuous. I apologize if you are, indeed, not an Apple fan in an active state of disingenuity. This said, if you are to be believed, then I don’t understand what your comment was adding to the conversation here. Was your entire point truly that you simply dislike confusing technology? Did that really need to be said?
Yup. I do this shit for a living and wonder how mundanes deal with some of these issues
I’m so confused… Do you think android and/or windows users use sudo? That’s a Linux thing… Macs run on an off-shoot of Linux.
Android and iOS are very similar to all “basic” users. Android simply allows super users (ironically this is related to sudo) to use commands if they reeeaaally want to. Although, to be fair, you need an unlocked phone for that.
Normies, are just allowed third party apps like ReVanced that let you skip YouTube ads for free. Do you not like that ability? If so, you can pay. Google loves that. Google owns Android. We’ve done a loop-dee-loop now, I do believe.
I admittedly know less about Android today. But I chose iOS when Android was quite bad. With iPhone I am not afraid, for example that if I lose or break it, then I need to spend any significant amount of time to setup new iPhone. Couple clicks and the new phone is in exactly in the same state as the old one. Same apps, same files, everything. Maybe Android become better today, I do not know for sure. But I heard enough of the stories from my friends about difficulties because the new Android phone runs Android of different version than the old phone, so, some programs are missing, some things are different and so on.
With Windows, while it is also becoming better, it is still plagued with some hardware driver bugs, etc. For half a year, for example, my computer would just refuse to go to sleep automatically. I tried everything I could find on internet - no luck. Then one day, it just fixed itself for no reason. The update system also for some reason fails to install some updates. And the sound output constantly switches to monitor speakers which I do not have.
My iMacs - zero issuers. They just work. My iPhones - zero issues. My iPads - zero issues. Single convenient ecosystem. Oh, add Apple Watch there as well.
That is exactly how Android phones work as well, and they have for many years. I think my last phone that needed a third party app to do things like transfer contacts was the Samsung Galaxy S4 (2013).
I recommend you check out the competition. I say this purely because I want more consumers to be critical of big brands and their latest offerings. If everyone intelligently assessed devices when they came out without a bias, I genuinely believe all of the devices we use (Apple, Google, Samsung, etc.) would be far better in just about every way, including their price.
Instead, Apple has set a long-standing precedent amongst the majority of their user-base that their devices are so good you don’t need to compare them against their own competition. This has been so successful that it’s led to other companies like Samsung and Google to adopting Apple “design choices” (non-replacable batteries, sealing devices so they are difficult or impossible to repair, removing the headphone jack, etc.) that end up being incredibly bad for all of us consumers.
The latest phones these days are a joke. Google, Apple, Samsung… they are pretty much ALL jokes that are nearly identical to the previous years model.
You are talking about hardware. I am talking about ecosystem.
I used Linux at home and work for 15 years - 1998 through 2013 - and finally I was Jesus fucking Christ, I don’t want to spend 5 hours configuring a video card ever again, and bought a MacBook. It’s funny these days seeing people “I USE ARCH BRO” because I know I could but I just don’t get enjoyment out of it these days. Same with phones. I couldn’t give less of a fuck about rooting my phone or running a custom ROM.
Does ChatGPT even do this? I thought it was trained on a closed data set from 2021. While it can learn new things through conversation, it doesn’t actually search the internet anymore. Right? It’s literally just predictive text on your phone. It’s supposed to make you feel like it’s answering you but it’s all smoke & mirrors.
The paid version does that. The data set is expanded to sometime in 2023 and it actually browses internet when needed using bing as search engine. It does lots of other interesting things, such as uses Dall-E to draw images when needed, or uses python and executes the code in background when needed (but you can check it). For example, if you ask a numerical question that requires solution of equations, it will do it in python. An example of such question I recently asked is “at what temperature the value in Kelvin and Fahrenheit is the same?”