Title says it all (i have turned on 165hz on settings). Its a cheap monitor, do some 165hz monitors not truly give you that experience? Or are my eyes fucked
It’s wildly obvious if you grab a window and drag it around. Try having the settings on 60 and dragging it around when you change it to 165; it’s very glaringly obvious.
I thought you were talking about physical windows for a sec. Made no sense. I’m an idiot.
Please stop carrying huge glass panels around for no reason, that’s not a safe thing to do.
Lol. But I’m not done with my tests!
What works best for me is simply moving the cursor quickly in a circle. On a higher refresh display, you’ll see much more “ghost” cursors at the same time.
I’d make sure you don’t have any display boost stuff going on your monitor, ghosting isn’t a feature it’s a bug
For me the difference was immediately noticeable. Even back in the old days I had to have at least a 75 Hertz monitor because 60 Hertz was slow enough that I could see the flicker pulse of the screens.
I will say I can’t notice much of an improvement from 144 Hertz to 165 and I haven’t had the chance to see a 240 yet, but anything under 75 is essentially unusable for me
I did that, I cant tell, iv had this problem on Linux and windows so its not an is issue either
What cable and interface are you using?
DP 1.4 i think, anyways i had checked it can handle 1080p 165hz
Haven’t read the entire thread so apologies if you’ve already provided this information but could you show us a picture of your monitor’s osd with the input source information? That should tell you right there that your input device isn’t sending out what you desire.
Also if you don’t have a >144hz option in your os’s display options, try disconnecting any other monitors you have plugged in.
Yeah I checked, it works, did a lil test with the cursor and there’s visibly more images on my 165hz one, I think it just has bad eno7gh smearing that it doesn’t work properly
Have you configured your OS to use a higher refresh rate in monitor settings? The difference is night and day…
It should be wildly obvious just moving your mouse across the screen. Maybe your graphics adapter has an issue and isn’t properly setting the mode?
Ah I have the same problem with my laptop. It is set to 144hz but I don’t see any difference with the external 60hz monitor. I guess I’m genetically not built for eSports.
If you do quick circles with the cursor do you not see more frames of the mouse on the high refresh rate monitor?
If I pay attention to it, yes
If you have to do that sort of thing just to see the difference, I don’t think the difference is going to matter to you.
How else would you test the difference? By looking at a still picture?
The difference matters very much in high speed video games and this is the most basic of ways to test it.
I’m talking about whether or not they would care about a distance that you couldn’t just see while using it and had to do something specific to test for.
… I dunno about you, but I move my mouse quite regularly. I also scroll webpages.
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You may have to set the refresh rate manually to go higher than 60hz. Things should look much smoother.
Run ‘xrandr -q’ and see if it gives you multiple refresh rates for your displays.
Also, what GPU are you using?
RX 6600 on fedora 38 (a extension I like isn’t on 39 yet)
Is your monitor plugged into your GPU, as opposed to the plug on your motherboard (which would go to your integrated graphics on your CPU, if it’s supported)?
No its plugged into the gpu
How are you testing? You can run the UFO test for a quick and dirty comparison: https://www.testufo.com/
More subjectively, you could load up a game you know well and start it at 30FPS. Wave your mouse around a bit looking for blurring or artefacting, then step it up to test 60, 90, 120, etc to see if you can tell the difference.
When you say “settings”, did you check the settings on the monitor menus too? And in your graphics card settings, outside the game?
What cable is connecting your monitor to your PC?
I’ve done UFO, and the top one looks a bit nicer IG? Might be placebo. Fanes are much the smae, I think theres a difference but I’m not sure
I’ll tell you the other info when I get home
Is it possible that there are ghosting issues with the panel? I had a 120hz monitor at work at one point that had ghosting issues so bad it made it look barely any better than a 60hz panel. Going from 60hz to 120hz+ should definitely be noticeable to most people
That’s my current theory, BC that monitor is a super cheap acer monitor
If its a cheap VA panel and not an IPS one, the chances of smear is fairly high
I can’t remember the model, but it was the cheapest monitor (hrr) I could find at the time
I’ll never forget when I went from 60hz to 165hz, everything seemed so fluid and smooth. I couldn’t imagine going back.
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Have you checked this?
I find this one especially telling (180hz here)
Yes, i can barely tell thé difference
I hope your eyes are still under warranty
How old are you? I’m nearing 40 and can’t see the difference between 60 and 120 on my phone
I am totally with you. I have had a 144Hz monitor for 2 years now. I am 100% sure that everything was configured correctly and I could spot some small differences in the UFO test. But other than that I do not feel any differences in day-to-day activities or games. Windows reset my frequency settings occasionally, but I never noticed it.
Whip the mouse back and forth quickly, it’s the only time it’s visible really.
Also gaming…
If you have a phone that does high rate slo-mo you can video record the screen when you switch modes and see if the rate is actually changing or not. Have an object moving around the screen while you’re recording the switch. Note that I’ve not tried this myself, I’m just working off of theory.
I have used https://github.com/Nixola/VRRTest before to check the refresh frequency. I use X11 and wanted to check if my 144Hz monitors work with my older 60Hz one. Set the test mode to squares and the frame rate to twice your monitor’s refresh rate. You should see every second square light up. If this is not the case, play around with the frame rate in the program until every second square lights up.
I can’t see the difference either though. Yes, the mouse moves a bit quicker if I pay attention to it. But I do not care or notice, to be honest.
Me being super jealous of everyone here going to 144 or 165 when I just upgraded my pc a few months ago to finally use 120 on my current ultrawide monitor.
All I can say is even 120 from 60 was amazing and very obvious. As someone else said the biggest wow moment was just moving desktop items around and it being super smooth.
I do know there are a bunch of settings you may need to change to make sure your using the correct settings above 60. Check the advanced display settings which should list out all resolutions with refresh rate to pick. Sometimes monitors need to be set. Sometimes the driver software for the GPU has options for it listed. I know on mine I had to have freesync enabled as well. Lots of variables that may keep it from being set correctly to check. I remember setting up my audio equipment and you think your using everything correctly then realize your advanced settings had an option set to like 44 bit rate instead of at least something more reasonable like 192.
I use Linux so its just the one toggle in is settings, but you’re right, I might have to double check my monitor settings
If you’re using x11 and have another 60hz monitor it may be an issue with vsync. Wayland shouldn’t have this issue.
Personally I don’t notice 75 vs 144 unless I’m playing a first person game with a lot of quick movement.
Yeah I’m using wayland
Me being super jealous of everyone here going to 144 or 165 when I just upgraded my pc a few months ago to finally use 120 on my current ultrawide monitor.
No need to be jealous, the gain from 120 to 144/165 is significantly less than from 60 to 120.
60 to 120 is like a night and day difference, even for desktop usage.
Tbh I’ve used >100fps on monitors for so long I’ve subconsciously made it so when I see windows running at 60fps it feels sluggish
