@yogthos Perhaps more people should learn about the horseshoe theory. This should raise more awareness about extremism and make our societies better. Do notice that:
Each of the two parties (the far left and the far right) are piggybacking on being the most vocal against the other, while doing hideous crimes against humanity (be it in concentration camps or gulags) in order to suppress dissent, silence opposition and centralize the whole power and control over society and individuals in the hands of a single party and ruler.
On the same page, none allow free elections once their power grab is complete.
[Bonus] Putin (the founder and the leader of the “United Russia” party - an actual nazi party bringing actual Nazism in Russia since almost a year) said that he still really likes the communist and socialist ideas. He is also unofficially at war with a country whose leader has Jewish roots and was democratically elected, but hey, they are Nazis, right? Just like these guys.
<details class=“spoiler”><summary>Click to open/close</summary>I actually do see this theory applied on Lemmy as well, as I cannot see any difference between actual communists and people on the far right in certain regards.</details>
What I’m seeing is a bunch of asinine nonsense that has been debunked time and again. The fact that you posted this nonsense unironically and don’t even realize how absurd it is really says volumes. My favorite example of the absurdities you quoted is the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact which ignores the fact that USSR repeatedly called on the west to ally against Germany, and the fact that US companies continued to work with the nazis deep into the war. Every comment I’ve read from you has been deeply imbecilic, but this one truly takes the cake.
Okay, keeping the conversation on Molotov-Ribbentrop - why was the USSR forced to annex Bessarabia, why was it forced to annex Northern Bukovina (a strip of land that the Tsarist Russia NEVER owned)? Why was it forced to attack Finland? Why was it forced to annex parts of former Poland? Why was it forced not to return those territories after the end of WWII?
Where’s the argument for “oh, poor little over-12-timezones-stretching Soviet Union once got too scared by Nazi Germany and redraw the map of Central-Eastern Europe” in this situation? Did you see UK or France annexing territories of sovereign European nations just to keep them safe from Hitler? Does your mind comprehend the concept of border inviolability? Do you understand the reasoning done behind it?
Imagine if the US just sent troops to Cuba to annex parts of it so that it won’t fall down in the hands of the commies - did that happen? Did that happen to any country in this very world?
It’s pretty amazing that anybody could be such an utter ignoramus as to unironically ask what territories UK or France annex. The west colonized countless countries. UK murdered so many people in America that it changed the climate. UK brutally colonized India and committed a genocide there under Churchill. The west committed atrocities in China for a whole century. The west today is invading countries left and right having killed over 6 million people in its war on terror.
Imagine having to imagine if US sent troops to Cuba, which they did, and where US currently occupies territory. I simply refuse to believe that you could be so utterly ignorant not to know these things, which leaves the conclusions that you’re just a sad troll who’s not even good at trolling.
Did they do it with the explicit goal of stopping Nazi Germany, or did they do that just because they were European and “had” to do this European stuff that all empires did at that time?
and where US currently occupies territory
Wow, is that one entire region or is just a place with one base where they sometimes torture people convicted of terrorism the same way as the Soviet Union did?
you’re just a sad troll who’s not even good at trolling.
I might be a bad troll, but I’m sure as hell not on either end of the horseshoe like your history shows as well.
Did they do it with the explicit goal of stopping Nazi Germany, or did they do that just because they were European and “had” to do this European stuff that all empires did at that time?
No, they did it with the explicit goal of subjugating the people in those countries and plundering their resources. Europeans continue to do that today.
Wow, is that one entire region or is just a place with one base where they sometimes torture people convicted of terrorism the same way as the Soviet Union did?
Yeah, it’s just a torture camp that US put on the soil it annexed from Cuba, no biggie. US is literally the champion of invading countries and brutalizing their populations. Yet, here you are pretending that USSR was somehow worse. Really shows that you don’t actually have any morals to speak of.
I might be a bad troll, but I’m sure as hell not on either end of the horseshoe like your history shows as well.
The horseshoe theory was invented by imbeciles and continues to be parroted by imbeciles. It’s not a real thing as anybody with a modicum of historical literacy knows.
@yogthos Perhaps more people should learn about the horseshoe theory. This should raise more awareness about extremism and make our societies better. Do notice that:
<details class=“spoiler”><summary>Click to open/close</summary>I actually do see this theory applied on Lemmy as well, as I cannot see any difference between actual communists and people on the far right in certain regards.</details>
Thanks for adding to the comedy. Imagine being a grown ass adult who believes in horseshoe theory. 😂
@yogthos Being a grown ass adult and not even seeing all this seems pretty problematic to me imo
What I’m seeing is a bunch of asinine nonsense that has been debunked time and again. The fact that you posted this nonsense unironically and don’t even realize how absurd it is really says volumes. My favorite example of the absurdities you quoted is the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact which ignores the fact that USSR repeatedly called on the west to ally against Germany, and the fact that US companies continued to work with the nazis deep into the war. Every comment I’ve read from you has been deeply imbecilic, but this one truly takes the cake.
@yogthos “debunked”
Okay, keeping the conversation on Molotov-Ribbentrop - why was the USSR forced to annex Bessarabia, why was it forced to annex Northern Bukovina (a strip of land that the Tsarist Russia NEVER owned)? Why was it forced to attack Finland? Why was it forced to annex parts of former Poland? Why was it forced not to return those territories after the end of WWII?
Where’s the argument for “oh, poor little over-12-timezones-stretching Soviet Union once got too scared by Nazi Germany and redraw the map of Central-Eastern Europe” in this situation? Did you see UK or France annexing territories of sovereign European nations just to keep them safe from Hitler? Does your mind comprehend the concept of border inviolability? Do you understand the reasoning done behind it?
Imagine if the US just sent troops to Cuba to annex parts of it so that it won’t fall down in the hands of the commies - did that happen? Did that happen to any country in this very world?
It’s pretty amazing that anybody could be such an utter ignoramus as to unironically ask what territories UK or France annex. The west colonized countless countries. UK murdered so many people in America that it changed the climate. UK brutally colonized India and committed a genocide there under Churchill. The west committed atrocities in China for a whole century. The west today is invading countries left and right having killed over 6 million people in its war on terror.
Imagine having to imagine if US sent troops to Cuba, which they did, and where US currently occupies territory. I simply refuse to believe that you could be so utterly ignorant not to know these things, which leaves the conclusions that you’re just a sad troll who’s not even good at trolling.
@yogthos
Did they do it with the explicit goal of stopping Nazi Germany, or did they do that just because they were European and “had” to do this European stuff that all empires did at that time?
Wow, is that one entire region or is just a place with one base where they sometimes torture people convicted of terrorism the same way as the Soviet Union did?
I might be a bad troll, but I’m sure as hell not on either end of the horseshoe like your history shows as well.
No, they did it with the explicit goal of subjugating the people in those countries and plundering their resources. Europeans continue to do that today.
Yeah, it’s just a torture camp that US put on the soil it annexed from Cuba, no biggie. US is literally the champion of invading countries and brutalizing their populations. Yet, here you are pretending that USSR was somehow worse. Really shows that you don’t actually have any morals to speak of.
The horseshoe theory was invented by imbeciles and continues to be parroted by imbeciles. It’s not a real thing as anybody with a modicum of historical literacy knows.
@yogthos
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay, makes sense.
Not gonna comment on your insults.