Hey comrades, can someone please enlighten me on the holes that I have on my knowledge of China. I know that China currently has a restricted bourgeoisie class to be able to get enough capital to modernize the entire country. And that makes me wonder, if China has plans to eventually get rid of their bourgeoisie once it achieves it target goal. Does it have ever set a date or a specific plan on this?

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        China keeps tricking me, I thought they were gonna do follow MY plan for communism (me being the world’s foremost expert) but instead they just lifted hundreds of millions of people out of poverty and built the world’s largest thriving economy to the point that they can challenge global US hegemony, I feel so let down. 😞

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          neither of those are unique accomplishments of communism tho. And afaict in the things that specifically make communism better than the alternative (radical democracy, elimination of class inequality/class divisions in general), China is not doing exceptionally well.

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              For real, China’s economic miracle is basically unprecedented and better than anything accomplished by any other country with the possible exception of the USSR, and is more enduring. And it’s just the beginning.

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                China obviously operates on an enormous scale, but other countries have also been successful at rapid reductions in poverty, through the same kind of competent technocracy that China has adopted. Singapore is a good example. I do think China deserves the benefit of the doubt, but I suspect whether and when they shift towards a socialist economy will be based on pragmatism more than anything else.

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                  Singapore wasn’t a country where being “rich” meant being a landless peasant but eating wheat instead of millet and having meat 3 times a year.

                  China have made any number of compromises and backward steps, some needed and some I heavily criticise.

                  But they’re still around, and I don’t see a hammer and sickle on any of our flags so we might want to remove the log from our eyes before we attempt to remove the splinter from theirs.

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                  Singapore was never really ‘poor’ in the way China, especially at the start of the 20th century, was though. They have always been a relatively wealthy centralized trading port.

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                  Singapore can’t possibly be a good example because it’s a city, basically. It’s not comparable to what china has done and I’m talking about what China has done since Mao proclaimed the PRC in 1949, not just since Deng’s reforms in 1979 onward. What Mao and the CPC did achieved great progress even before the reforms that allowed foreign capital to come pouring in (always under the direction of the CPC and for the benefit of all the people). Those reforms weren’t an abandonment of the socialist principals that preceded them, just a change in tactics to conform to the situation China found itself in within the global economy, allowing foreign investment to turbocharge what was already underway. Just look at China compared to India for an example of a country of similar size and demographic realities choosing capitalist development vs socialist development.

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            Oh no that’s horrible, I’m going to call Xi Jinping and the other one hundred million Chinese communist party members to tell them what a bad job they’re doing angery