Haven’t peace negotiations been offered already, but denied several times
Yes, because they keep demanding inane stuff like “Return of all occupied territories, reparations, removal of Russian chauvinism from school program and Putin put on trial in Hague”.
Then western politicians pay a visit and even these demands change to “There can be no peace with ruZZian occupants!”
Well that would depend on your definition, I suppose. They’ve been an independent country for thirty years, although even at the height of Yuschenko madness the ties remained close. A lot of people speak Russian in Ukraine, pretty much all over the country. There are clips of politicians, those brought to power by Maidan no less, struggling to speak Ukrainian. And yet, I don’t think it’s correct to just handwave it as being “pretty much Russia anyway”. That’s the kind of sentiment that serves to fuel the nationalist propaganda. Material conditions matter.
Right. I have no idea. I’m not Ukrainian or Russian so I can’t speak for either, it just seemed to me that Ukraine and Russia are so close linguistically and culturally that it’s just difficult, I think, to draw a line. As somebody who was there when this was all beginning I’m honestly still very confused and I can’t wrap my head around the severity. At Maidan everything was super concentrated to the city center and outside of that life was on as normal (in Jan 2014 thru July 2014 when I was in Kiev). I think it would be tough to be Ukrainian. A lot of my friends have left Ukraine and immigrated to Poland or the US because it got to thepoint where it was impossible to support themselves and or their families
Yes, because they keep demanding inane stuff like “Return of all occupied territories, reparations, removal of Russian chauvinism from school program and Putin put on trial in Hague”.
Then western politicians pay a visit and even these demands change to “There can be no peace with ruZZian occupants!”
Isn’t most of Eastern Ukraine pretty much Russia anyway?
Well that would depend on your definition, I suppose. They’ve been an independent country for thirty years, although even at the height of Yuschenko madness the ties remained close. A lot of people speak Russian in Ukraine, pretty much all over the country. There are clips of politicians, those brought to power by Maidan no less, struggling to speak Ukrainian. And yet, I don’t think it’s correct to just handwave it as being “pretty much Russia anyway”. That’s the kind of sentiment that serves to fuel the nationalist propaganda. Material conditions matter.
Right. I have no idea. I’m not Ukrainian or Russian so I can’t speak for either, it just seemed to me that Ukraine and Russia are so close linguistically and culturally that it’s just difficult, I think, to draw a line. As somebody who was there when this was all beginning I’m honestly still very confused and I can’t wrap my head around the severity. At Maidan everything was super concentrated to the city center and outside of that life was on as normal (in Jan 2014 thru July 2014 when I was in Kiev). I think it would be tough to be Ukrainian. A lot of my friends have left Ukraine and immigrated to Poland or the US because it got to thepoint where it was impossible to support themselves and or their families