This meme is from 2004. History repeats itself.

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    Both “sides” have human lives in the middle getting chewed up.

    One of them also holds all the power to stop all of this

    Also - A 3 hr notice before bombing civilian infrastructure! How quickly could you move out given 3 hours!?

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      Yeah, but they won’t. They have their stated goal of wanting to erase all Jews from this earth.

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            The document found on Hamas’ document disagrees:

            https://hamas.ps/en/post/678

            EDIT: looks like it’s down, but here’s another copy: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/hamas-2017-document-full To quote:

            Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.
            

            The document you linked is from 1988, from when Hamas was first founded and was a fringe insignificant islamist group (which Israel admitted to have propped up and wanted to become the prominent Palestinian group) with minimal popular support. This was revised when Hamas underwent radical change, many members joined it from the former PLO, and Hamas became the sole group resisting apartheid.

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              which Israel admitted to have propped up and wanted to become the prominent Palestinian group

              So, basically what Hillary did with Trump? Oh, that’s rich!

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              Here’s a quote from the same document:

              The following are considered null and void: the Balfour Declaration, the British Mandate Document, the UN Palestine Partition Resolution, and whatever resolutions and measures that derive from them or are similar to them. The establishment of “Israel” is entirely illegal and contravenes the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people and goes against their will and the will of the Ummah; it is also in violation of human rights that are guaranteed by international conventions, foremost among them is the right to self-determination.

              Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea.

              Seems pretty clear to me.

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                Those quotes seem pretty good to me. I never said that Hamas wants only partial liberation. They want no part of the region to ruled by apartheid, and I support that as well.

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              I don’t know how well educated you are with the whole history on Israel and Palestine but if you do yourself a favour and do so. You’d understand they more or less wrote „we don’t hate Jews, but we think they are evil and want them noblere near us“. Wich is a common sentiment in the Arab world. Because as a fun fact. The mufti of Palestine was involved in the planning of the holocaust.

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                The mufti of Palestine was involved in the planning of the holocaust.

                Dude’s been dead almost 50 years. I have a feeling there’s a bit more going on here.

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                we think they are evil and want them noblere near us

                This contradicts what figures of Palestinian resistance have repeatedly said. Even now that Israel successfully assassinated them or sabotaged these groups and propped up Hamas, it is still fact that most Palestinians choose to coexist with the Jewish people.

                You are projecting Israel’s genocidal behavior onto Palestinians. Everything you say is what is Israel already doing, not Palestine.