I’ve been having trouble explaining to liberal co-workers that there isn’t really an “Upper” or “Lower” working class. They insist that class as a relation to means of production is outdated and it makes more sense to measure it by income. What’s the most effective way to explain to them why this doesn’t work?
Ask them how these income percentiles were achieved and which production roles are associated with which income percentiles.
Also Michael Parenti had a bomb ass section on this in Blackshirts and Reds
Thanks for the suggestion, I’ve yet to get to Blackshirts and Reds, will definitely look into it.
IIRC Parenti had some questionable China takes and also some claims about post-Soviet Estonia without providing a source that I can’t verify online so, IDK, be careful when citing him unless it’s pure theory or he cites something (he usually does)