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          • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
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            9 months ago

            haha, indeed. Now if someone in this thread would take my comment literally and tell the North Koreans they suffer from propaganda… and if you’re unable to talk to one of them, maybe the US propaganda is just slightly less of an issue than for a country of people who aren’t allowed to cross a border (even on the internet) without being shot or thrown in a gulag.

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              9 months ago

              You just keep proving the initial point correct.

              “Haha no North Koreans are more propagandized, I heard on the news that they think Kim Jong Un doesn’t poop haha so stupid and brainwashed”.

              Bro reflect on the propaganda you’ve been fed about Koreans and realize that you’re the one that’s been duped.

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                  9 months ago

                  North Koreans can and do leave the country, it’s a bit more complicated since they’re in a state of war ever since the U.S. invaded them and killed a third of their people and then instituted decades of sanctions designed to destroy or starve out the country, which continues today. That doesn’t make them “literal prisoners”.

                  Which country has the world’s most literal prisoners? By total and by percentage of population? The United States. You may not have known this, since you’re a very propagandized USian, but if you did know it, you may not think it’s so bad, because after all, in North Korea everyone is a prisoner, according to the propaganda you’ve been fed. Well then, no sense in complaining about the mass incarceration in your own country!

                  Who is served by you being uninformed and brainwashed into believing ridiculous nonsense about America’s enemies?

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                    9 months ago

                    What about the Koreans who have escaped and talked about Kim being a dictator? Why don’t you believe those refugees? They didn’t all go to the US either so you can’t say they were brainwashed by the US.

                • Plenty of North Koreans leave and live in China. The big reason it is so difficult for them to leave in general isn’t because they are being held prisoner there by the DPRK government, it’s because of restrictions imposed by the US and UN making it impossible for them to live most anywhere else.

                  United States:

                  “5. North Korean Overseas Workers (OP8): Requires countries to expel all North Korean laborers earning income abroad immediately but no later than 24 months later (end of 2019).”

                  United Nations:

                  “Strengthens the ban on providing work authorizations for DPRK nationals by requiring Member States to repatriate all DRPK nationals earning income and all DPRK government safety oversight attachés monitoring DPRK workers abroad within their jurisdiction within 24 months from 22 December 2017.”

                  Meanwhile the DPRK has no official restriction on the people’s free movement.

                  Thanks to @yogthos@lemmygrad.ml for pointing this out a couple months ago, before which I didn’t know either.