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        Is it actually reducing harm to fight to the last Ukrainian though? There were multiple attempts at peace that were sabotaged by either nazi paramilitaries or nato-member politicians. Remember when Zelensky traveled to the front to tell them to respect the ceasefire during Minsk 2 and they didn’t? Maybe the people sabotaging peace would be less bold knowing the US isn’t going to keep supplying arms.

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          Is it actually reducing harm to fight to the last Ukrainian though?

          When Russia is trying to commit genocide against Ukraine? Yes.

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          multiple attempts at peace

          What were the terms of this peace? Do you have sources to back up your claims?

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            Are you not aware of Minsk 1 or Minsk 2? There are more but those are the big ones

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              No I am not. Would you kindly explain and provide sources for this and all your other claims?

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                No, I think it is reasonable for you to go out and research two well known and easily researchable treaties. I am not your secretary.

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                  I think it is reasonable for me to expect the burden of proof to be on the person making the claims.

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      I have never thought of the usa helping ukraine because they are interested in ukranian peoples lives. I see them fighting because gaining an ally with great resources and an excellent geographic position is important to maintain power.

      They are also testing the new way of running a war between first world armies.

      Perhaps I’m wrong but this war benefits american interests beyond being world police.

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        Or, and stay with me here, we have a blueprint from about a hundred years ago of what happens when you just let a powerful county annex surrounding countries. Spoiler Alert, they don’t just stop at 1.