• drekly@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      “In the meantime, we must not forget: it was Russia that launched the invasion of Ukraine and it is Russia that is responsible for bringing war to our country”

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        Ah yes, because drone strikes on schools in Donbas isn’t a war and jailing opposition leaders is what normal countries do.

        The period between Euromaidan and the SMO is rather terrifying. Suggesting that the war started with the SMO is completely missing the context of what happened prior to that event.

        Context doesn’t justify an action, but it’s important for understanding it. The same applies here: the context of the Russian invasion doesn’t justify Ukraine launching missiles at their own civilians, but it helps us understand why it happened.

        Edit: with further context being revealed in the past day, I was wrong on this. The casualty count in this context is indicative of a precision strike and a gathering of friends and family and low-ranked military personnel is not a valid proportional military target to even come close to justifying the civilian casualties under international conduct code for armed conflict. Sorry, everyone.

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          Oh boohoo Russia HAD to invade and kill civilians. Who’s all over the whataboutism now

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            Does that justify Ukraine launching missiles at their own civilians?

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          Ukr gains nothing from false flags, but go off and tell us how it was a false flag no question

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              Targeting of military targets is entirely valid. It’s a war. You hit military targets. That’s sort of how war works.

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            Ukraine has been slowly losing Western support for months, so there’s definitely something to gain.

            It’s far more likely to be another equipment malfunction (I’m guessing infrared targeting locked onto the wrong heat signature or something stupid?), just like the market strike.

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      yeah i wonder as well. always a russian missile until people take a look at it and it’s radio silence from there lol.

      funny how russia always gets clowned on for their false flags (they’re laughably bad anyways) but when ukraine does it (and a decent job at one too) the ukraine supporters always do whataboutism.

      always at strangely convenient times too.

      i’m all for support for ukraine (it’s people anyways). going to the equivalent of a vatnik doesn’t help anyone.