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    “We’re trying to create a safe and loving home.”

    “Wow, so what you’re saying is you won’t love me if I come in and release millions of angry wasps in your home? Have fun in your echo chamber, I guess.”

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      “Just because you disagree that minorities should be wiped off the face of the earth doesn’t mean you have to cancel me”

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        “Why can’t we just meet in the middle and wipe half the minorities off the planet?”

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          Maybe we should start an equally extreme movement on the left so that the centrist actually know what the centre is supposed to be.

          “Minorities should be our supreme leaders, that enslaves the majority”

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            It’s getting to this point. The left need to start arming themselves and agitate for what we want. The over the decades the right-wing shifted right. To counter this the democratic party shifted right as well in an attempt to court the “undecided” voters.

            This has failed spectacularly and they just alienated their actual base. Now the country has shifted right and the true leftists are left with little to no representation.

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              “In our latest innovation, we have added sound baffling to the echo chambers. The upshot is now people can hear themselves and nothing else, as requested. This helps narcissists keep out of others way and let people get on with their lives… What’s the downside, you ask? Oh… Well, the downside is that everyone else is predicted to suffer psychosis. Well, predict to suffer it 62% faster than now… Anyways, mission accomplished!” /s

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    They appeal to tolerance because we value it, not because they do. Once they have power they won’t practice the tolerance towards differences in opinion they demand.

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      Once they have power they won’t practice the tolerance

      Well duh. They don’t even pretend to practice tolerance when they don’t have power.

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      No paradox once you stop viewing tolerance a principle and start viewing it as a social contract; only those that keep it are covered by it.

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    Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them.—In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.

    The Paradox of Tolerance,
    Karl Popper,
    1945.

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      Wonderful quote, but curse my brain for reading “Karl Popper” as “Carl Pappa”

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      It’s worth noting that what Karl Popper most likely meant by intolerance is something like “forbid their followers to listen to rational argument … teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols” rather than any broader meaning of the term, and is here explicitly giving credit to the value of rational debate.

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    Also transphobic discussion shouldn’t be tolerated either. At this point transphobes should be regarded with ridicule and hatred. They’ve had ample opportunity to show sympathy for something as simple as pronouns and yet they’re still bigots.

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    whatever “intolerance” is required to bar nazis from your society is infinitesimal compared to the intolerance that would result from allowing even a single nazi into your society.

    there’s also the greater point here that intolerance based in hatred of an individual or group’s immutable characteristics only bears a superficial resemblance to intolerance of that same bigotry. they are not meaningfully comparable, and attempts to conflate the two have to be understood as an attempt to smuggle hate in under the nose of otherwise well-meaning people

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      So much for the tolerant left. Ever heard of little thing called FREEZE PEACH. You probably haven’t, its in our Constitution, the very best document ever, made by the best political minds ever so that we’d all have freedom, even you red fash scum. I support everyone’s right to speak in the free marketplace of ideas. I’m not afraid of competition, that’s what makes us free, unlike dictatorships like Russia, China, Cuba, or North Korea. The Free World can handle it, unlike you people.

      Enjoy your echo chamber tankie smuglord

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        lol this is a joke right? It’s so ridiculous but it also somehow seems like you might be serious.

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          Its funny that you would think this is a joke. There’s nothing remotely funny about standing up for FREE SPEECH. If you go after the Nazis whose next? The KKK? You ever hear of the ACLU? They stand up for the KKK’s rights and they are proud liberals. Because they know its slippery slope. So joke all you want about coming for the nazis I’m going with the Constitution and the Rule of Law smuglord

          (I am actually joking)

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          in general if you see a hexbear user going to the mat defending an arch liberal position (freeze-peach) it’s either a goof or a troll

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        negative even here in moscow i’m not safe from you people. Товарищ Путин, активируйте шпалы КГБ немедленно!

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        I don’t know if it’s from WORMS but the over exaggerating weapons with the worm like head coming from the ground only bring me to that conclusion

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      Michael Jordan would’ve had greater success taking back the toothbrush mustache if he carried a rocket launcher.

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    This is why I have no sympathy for Tankies. Their ideology has caused the death of tens of millions and we should not allow that to happen again just for the sake of “tolerance”.