I enjoyed my time being here and helping to grow this community. My plan was to keep things such as book of the month and show discussions going indefinitely. It’s sad to say goodbye as I would love to continue to try my best at facilitating discussion and help this community become a great resource for science fiction fans everywhere. Unfortunately, I don’t have a choice as lemmy.world admins have made the rather baffling decision to ban my account despite no rules being broken. Unless I hear back from Ruud on the matter and the situation is rectified there is no way for me to continue to enjoy discussing science fiction with all of you here. I’m unsure if I will attempt to restart this community on another instance.
Keep on loving science fiction. You guys are great. 🚀
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Specifically they are upset that I’ve mentioned that Sync has ads in it. Which is both curious and suspicious. I’d rather not think up conspiracy theories, but it doesn’t make any reasonable kind of sense. If you can decipher this strange behavior then I’d be curious to know. Whatever makes this “toxic” is beyond my current understanding of the situation.
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Though it’s abundantly clear that his views are gaining some negative attention from some users that either are misinformed, or have questionable intentions.
It’s entirely possible companies are trying multiple vectors to gain a chokehold on the community early on, seeing that most of the fediverses users are in currently in one convenient basket. Making communities falling under it, very appealing for predatory agencies.
if that’s all it takes to get a perma-boot there, how tf they have any users left?
Yeah I don’t agree with the ads take at all, but I don’t think the commentary was toxic or harassing.
Where is this chain? Link, please?
All I see is OP’s opinion. Not toxic in the slightest, imo.
Yeah, quite the opposite. Izzy was fairly stating an opinion and other people were being cruel and borderline toxic in their responses (nothing to warrant bans anywhere, though).
Thanks!
Edit: Hm. It gives me a server error. Bummer.
Edit 2: Never mind. Opening in private mode did the trick.
Thanks.
WTF!? That’s the most ridiculous ban I’ve ever heard of…toxic behavior my ass, those mods definitely have some stake in sync and the revenue it generates or something and got mad. Childish powertripping behavior banning people for the types of comments izzy have in that thread.
Very odd behavior. I’ve never used sync as I’m on iPhone but it’s been wild to me seeing the drove of users it has and the defense they have for any type of critique towards it. This takes that to an entirely new level. Speak about it and be banned.
How do you know that was what detonated the action by the mods?
Do apps like Sync require hosting of some kind? Almost any free app should have ads in it unless you want a paid version which doesn’t. People should be paid for their work.
I put my money on the ads comment and someone concerned had a few words with admins.
If you’re going to give it a go, look at my instance (science Fiction and Fantasy Alliance) or the literature cafe one. Hopefully you can get unbanned though.
Ah, beat me to it! https://sffa.community
@Izzy@lemmy.ml, if you or others move the community somewhere else, make sure to post to new communities or here so we can move with you.
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I’m so sorry to hear that.
I’ve too been banned from 2 communities without any justification. (I even made a post about it.)
We need to speak up as members of this wonderful community, we need to build a network that works on trust and reason.
Otherwise, Lemmy (and the Fediverse at large) will be no better than the big tech platforms we fight so hard to get away from.
I mean users are the ones that are flocking to lemmy.world to start new communities instead doing that on other instances.
Yeah, I find that particularly worrying. For all its decentralisation, there’s a lot of eggs in the LemmyWorld basket.
I don’t generally post on lemmy.world if alternative community exists somewhere else. Cross-posting is a good tool for spreading out but it is not really getting used a lot due to mobile clients not handing them and just showing multiple posts in a row (which annoys people).
It’s a bit of a discoverability problem I think, much easier to find content on your own instance. (So new communities are opened on instances with lots of people)
Definitely. Lemmy needs to figure out a way to search more globally (e.g. Mastodon relies on tags for discoverability), but there are external tools like https://lemmyverse.net/communities at the moment. I think just as important is people understanding that you can still grow on smaller instances if you produde interesting content. Just start is a bit slower.
Having to use an external tool gets in the way of a lot of people just through friction unfortunately. Lots of the people here are quite techy I think which helps though.
I need to take another look through there though, I keep running out of content.
https://github.com/Fmstrat/lcs can help with this, and be run by the instance admin rather than the users
I usually look in all or ine new communities community
All is only really useful in the larger instances because they have the communities federated, but yeh, that does help, especially if you are sorting by new or a short top.
https://github.com/Fmstrat/lcs can help with discoverability
I was instanced banned as well
This is just like reddit, curating content they approve vs what they disapprove
Who knows what this is, was or soon will be
Cry more, bigot
@izzydata Odd behavior on the part of the admin there, especially as they were adding you as a mod to communities less than two months ago. Feels like they have a stake in Synch bringing in some revenue, and aren’t happy about your criticism.
You ran a great community over there, and it’s clear you’re getting the shaft. If you ever are looking for a home for your content, you’ve got an open invitation to the @13thFloor - always looking for great scifi across all media.
I don’t understand why this would happen. Seems silly to ban someone over expressing their opinion when they’re doing it in a perfectly sensible way. This stuff makes people worried that they’ll get banned for innocent posts. Will we get banned for this?
lemmy.world is dying a slow and painful death, just hop on a more suitable instance.
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That’s the Lemmy world admins in a nut shell.
Similar thing happened to me due to a one off comment criticizing their use of discord.
Will you move the community to another server?
This has kind of soured my enthusiasm for it, but I’ll think about it. It is a passion of mine and I love being here, but I’m unsure if it can be the same.
Please do, lemm.ee has been great for me, much faster too, and this is one of my favorite communities.
A fiction specific server I think would be great, rather than just another big instance.
Like literature.cafe
Could be a great place, sffa seems interesting too
Yeah, I really like that one
Sifi.live is available, just need to set up an instance on a vm.
Be warned. Setting up the vm is the easy part. Then you’ll have to deal with moderation, users, spammers, etc. It’s a much bigger commitment than just running a single community.
I feel you. After the Reddit events, I just don’t have the enthusiasm to help maintain many communities anymore. It’s hard when you put a lot of work into it and then get treated like shit in response.
You didn’t say anything toxic there, I left reddit coz i grew tired of the too many power mad mods it had if lemmy is gonna end up the same then adios.
Everyone should be moving your communities off lemmy world and spreading out. Lemmy world is straight up dogshit because it is being treated as the reddit replacement instance.
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Kind of weird that they locked (and unpinned) it because that makes it impossible to actually find new mods. This post also doesn’t show up on lemmy.world anymore (edit: modlog says they purged it 18 hours ago).
I looked at 2 weeks of their history and found absolutely nothing
I assume that’s because those comments got deleted but who knows.
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I hope you spin up a new sci-fi community, you’ve done a great job with this one.
Hey, I’ve moved over to lemmy.ml. I guess I’ll see how it goes. Perhaps things won’t go great, but I shouldn’t let some bullies get me down.
Well, that’s unfortunate to say the least. I quite liked this community and the various discussion threads 😔
Hopefully the spirit of the community can continue either here, or somewhere else.
So I’ve worked in adtech for some time (it pays for my daughter’s medicine - please don’t hate me). There are mentions on that thread about ads being used to increase “user experience”. When you start seeing things like that being said, you are more than likely dealing with industry people. That is a term all digital ad firms use (note: the “user” isn’t you - its their clients/publishers. You would be considered opportunities and hopefully impressions. So just an increment in reporting metrics).
If anyone is curious, paid apps are typically a better option for you. Most apps on the Playstore for example are going to in-app advertising because that allows for high viewability, unescapable targetted ads with potentially high recidivism. Its the targetted part that makes it the worse option. You are traded and collected like Pokemon cards in various databases and sync pools. The more of you the companies collect, the more valuable the company. The digital you is basically considered part of company assets.
There is a lot of ethical gymnastics to my work, but I would say that if an instance start becoming accomadating to advertising that it should probably be nuked from low orbit. Izzy should close down the community and reopen in friendly waters. I doubt you can transfer data over, but the community is worthwhile so it would be a shame to see it go.
Move over to startrek.website maybe. Is it possible that your username is similar to someone who was spamming or trolling?
Maybe you can consider moving the community to sffa.community.
