Materialism>idealism
I’m not trying to get into a whole debate, it’s just interesting to me the way some people cling to these idealist philosophers. Same w the stoics imo. As a guy who used to read all of them… they’re useless to actually understanding life. Like it can be helpful to read them in order to understand how the Western worldview evolved, but they really shouldn’t be taken as some sort of handbook - which many seem to do. (reactionaries). People who read Nietzsche or Plato and think they have some sort of secret insight is my biggest red flag irt pseudo-intellectual who is just going to waste your time… same with Dostoevsky btw.
Confucius is based af though.
Edit: Also, yes these kinds of people exist- my former mentor/boss who spent decades at a white shoe DC law firm would accept any idea if you found a quote by Plato to justify it lmao.
In Daybreak he pondered the possibility of importing Chinese workers to Europe to carry out menial tasks, because their “modes of life and thought” made them suitable “industrious ants”.
Keep just defending Nietzsche mate
Hey could you link me some of those quotes? We could get them added to some lists.
I actually have PDFs of Daybreak, Genealogy of Morals (where he claims Africans don’t feel pain like cultured elite whites) and Birth of Tragedy which is where I’ve been pulling my quotes from.
It doesn’t take much to “read the whole thing for context” and see that the context is that he was a huge fucking fascist.