My pet conspiracy theory is that beefmagazine has a subtle bias to promote eating beef.
Fair point. I can post journal entries but people don’t seem to comment as much on those links.
theres a difference between “meatless diet” and “eating more meat is good”
I do think people should eat more red meat to get their daily fat soluble vitamins but mild meat consumption should be fine. We do see plenty of examples of cultures that eat mild amounts of meat and live healthy lives. I don’t see any examples of vegan cultures who look healthy.
This is fundamentally flawed. A simple B12 supplement a couple of times per week takes care of any deficiency. It also goes against the scientific consensus about saturated fat. Cherrypicking a couple of countries doesn’t change that.
A simple B12 supplement a couple of times per week takes care of any deficiency.
You forgot Creatine, Carnosine, Vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol) , DHA, Heme iron, Taurine full form vitamin A, k2.
It also goes against the scientific consensus about saturated fat. Cherry-picking a couple of countries doesn’t change that.
Scientific Consensus is not a argument. There isn’t even a consensus on this subject but using consensus is a appeal to authority logical fallacy. All the scientist in the world except 1 could believe the world is flat and that 1 scientist would be right.
It’s also not Cherry picking countries. Allow me to remind you,
Hong Kong and Japan has some of the highest life expectancy in the world and some of the highest consumption of meat.
India has one of the lowest life life expectancy and some of the lowest consumption of meat.
If meat did in fact shorten your life you would expect there to be a strong correlation between meat consumption and life expectancy but we don’t see that. We often see the reverse. Anyone who claims that countries who eat more meat don’t live as long are just ignoring whole countries and probably just fudging data to get a result they want.
Meat has never been shown to Cause death in humans. And by that I mean there has never been a study that fed one group meat, one group no meat for decades and compared results.
What we do know is that every single culture on earth has consumed animal foods so to just say they are unhealthy is an extraordinary claim that needs to be backed up by real evidence and not just flawed meta analysis and mailed out questionnaire that would require follow up studies and I don’t see that.
You forgot Creatine, Carnosine, Vitamin D3 (cholecalciferol) , DHA, Heme iron, Taurine full form vitamin A, k2.
These can all be supplemented quite easily with vegan replacements.
Scientific Consensus is not a argument. There isn’t even a consensus on this subject but using consensus is a appeal to authority logical fallacy.
Appeal to authority is an often misunderstood logical fallacy. It is only a logical fallacy to appeal to the authority of something who is a subject matter expert. So it would be an appeal to authority fallacy to rely on the word of the world’s smartest astrophysicists to settle a matter of biology.
Edit: Fix “not a logical fallacy”’ => “only a logical fallacy”
Meat has never been shown to Cause death in humans.
One of the problems with just relying on country-wide data is that meat consumption is correlated with increased wealth, with all that implies. There have been studies that have shown adverse effect to meat consumption, like colorectal cancer.
You can take supplements to supplement a poor diet yes but these are just nutrients we know about. We don’t know all of them yet.
Your censuses argument is flawed because consensus is not a argument. We can all have the wrong consensus.
You linked a NHS opinion article. Its entertainment not a peer reviewed study. If you actually linked the garbage studies they draw that conclusion from you would find they didn’t find causation. They did not feed one group meat and one group no meat and find colon cancer. They rely on mailed out questionnaires. And if you look at the risk factor is actually still super small.
No one has ever found that red meat causes cancer. They sent out surveys and performed meta analysis on surveys to try to come to a conclusion. Its bad science.
