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    “Well, everybody except for political dissidents, minorities, Jews, anyone who openly disagrees with me, and anyone I suspect of privately disagreeing with me”.

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      Reminder to all my queer friends that homosexuality was criminalized under Stalin’s regime, and was not repealed until the Soviet Union collapsed.

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        Friendly reminder that that was the standard at the time.

        For example, when Germany reunified lgbt people in East Germany lost all their rights.

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          Fucking wrong again you tankie parasite. Decriminalisation of Homosexuality:

          France 1871 - Canada 1969 - Australia 1984 - New Zealand 1986 - West Germany 1968 - United Kingdom 1967 - United States 1962 (Started and varies by state).

          So again you are full of shit you tankie shill.

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            parasite

            Just call me untermensch, I know you want to you scratched liberal.

            The US nationally decriminalized being gay in 2003. Fuck all the way off with US 1962.

            I know there are no tone indicators over the internet so you missed the exaggeration so I’ll say it again without the initial exageration- east german lgbt people lost a lot of rights during reunification

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              I’ll bite.

              What kind of rights did they lose?

              The only thing I can find is the equal age of consent for same-sex relations vs hetero relations: 1988 in DDR and 1994 in Germany post unification.

              Seems like a stretch to conclude that communist states were more LGBTQ-friendly based on this 6 year difference.

              Look into which countries allow same-sex marriage. The only communist country that allows it now is Cuba. They legalized it almost one year ago!

              That being said, communism vs capitalism is an economic discussion. It doesn’t necessarily say anything about social issues.

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                They straight up had state sponsored gay bars and there was a massive state sponsored education campaign on lgbt people. During reunification they also lost massive economic gains, along the same line as what “why women had better sex under socialism” talks about.

                Economics issues and social issues can’t be isolated. Homeless queer youth are affected by economic policies.

                The only communist country that allows it now is Cuba. They legalized it almost one year ago!

                Tbf marriage isn’t as much of a priority given what rights marriage grants in Cuba. Cuba has been doing SRS for free since 2009 and has sponsored massive education and anti-bigotry campaigns. Gay marriage is important but not that important compared to a bunch of other issues.

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          Oh so we’re applying the founding fathers owning slaves justification to queer persecution? Guess it’s okay when everyone else is doing it.

          Then again nevermind. I’m used to having our history downplayed by conservatives and reactionaries, including the ones that cosplay in red.

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            We have no choice but to keep an even more violent system because people who tried a less violent system were sometimes as homophobic as was standard at the time in most places.

            Let us ignore the fact that the small island nation of Cuba has the best lgbt rights in the world. Let’s ignore the fact that socialism most directly helped the poorest and most vulnerable of gay and trans people with their economic equalization in ways that “progressive” dictatorships of the bourgeoisie still don’t. Let’s ignore the fact that lgbt rights in the west were won by movements full of radical queer communists, not given out of the benevolence of capitalism.

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        disability

        Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa calm down with the russophobic, sinophobic, orientalist, reactionary liberal rhetoric, pal. The preferred term is “antisocial parasite”.

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      Well everyone except minorities, Jews

      First off, sus as fuck that you said minorities and then “Jews”

      Second off, the non-Russian SSRs vote at higher rates to remain the USSR during the referendum that reaffirmed that the citizens of the USSR wanted the USSR to stay together before the undemocratic dissolution of the USSR? While there were excesses and passive russification was a problem, minorities generally liked the USSR.

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        Concern trolling attempt: detected and denied
        Sealioning attempt: detected and denied
        Forum sliding attempt: detected and denied

        Failure level: embarrassing
        50 Yuan: NOT deposited

        Best be on your way now.

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            Doesn’t work that way ya brain dead tankie drone.

            But guess what does? Ya tankie social credit score. Sooo, projection much?

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              But guess what does? Ya tankie social credit score. Sooo, projection much?

              This is funny because social credit score is for businesses, and is a good thing. The west literally projects the credit score fear of the average US prole onto something that is meant to encourage businesses not to throw waste in rivers.

              Also calling me a drone. First off, youre the one parroting the mainstream opinion. Second off, dehumanizing communists is right in line with scratched liberals. Commies were the first in the nazi concentration camps, dontchaknow.

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                Commies were the second. They went after transexuals and homosexuals first. There are just a lot more commies than queer folk.

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    Stalin Communism is unique. Normal Communism allows the proletariat to embrace themselves and become equal. Stalin Communism allows the proletariat to embrace and become PAPA STALIN

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      Yeah! Stalin brainwashed the entire population of the Soviet Union. Surely they don’t love him for helping to bring about prosperity and wellbeing in a large area of the world that was severely lacking in these things prior to the October revolution. It also can’t be because his army was the primary factor in destroying a fascist invasion. It’s amazing how so many people are so quick to dismiss the simplest and factually correct answer when it comes to do with anything related to socialism.

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          Lol. Lmao even. Yeah Stalin with his big spoon ate up all the grain leaving none for the people. Forget the fact that famines were just a thing that happened back then. It happened fairly often under tsarist Russia. This was the last famine they would face because the Soviet leadership learned from it how to prevent it from happening again. Again, not bothering to consider the simplest answer because Stalin wanted to starve his own people for reasons.

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          Are we just saying nazi propaganda now? It was turned into a genocide from a famine that the Soviets were partially responsible for by nazi press like hearst press. The holodomor myth was straight up used to excuse the mass killing of Jewish folks.