So if the alt right came to power and neo nacis were your government, and the’d be happy and you were told “just simply don’t complain” would that be not so hard for you?
I understand that this is a Strawman argument, but I think, it’s the only think that can be of an equivalent examle here.
If I knew it ment getting in trouble I would simply not do it.
Like, my ability to whine is not worth going to jail for. Like, how do you picture it going. Just everyday at work I sigh, look at the clock, and have to bite my tongue to keep from going on rants about how much the government sucks? I already don’t talk about how much the government sucks to my coworkers. That is just to keep the peace. If I knew jail was an option I would want to talk to them about it even less
I haven’t mentioned holocaust, it was about Now and current neonacis compared to what happened to us.
And yes they didn’t attack minorities explicitely, but they were not excluded. Comunist didn’t just took money and means of production, they also attacked and forcibly asimilated Roma and trird their best to dismantle religous organizations.
And even though I’m atheist white male. Which was the easiest thing under that regime, it still is not something that anyone should consider okay.
Its fine to criticize the USSR for those things, we do that here. We don’t equate them to fascists though, because they aren’t and it disrespects victims of the holocaust.
And that is not what I’m trying to do, my family was in Auschwitz. But please we cannot go to the other extreme.
If you don’t want to take the example of forced Roma assimilation to communist society by forcing them to live on one place, but otherwise isolating them, so they them self can’t have efect on it.
You can look at Uyghurs in current china.
I’m not claiming here that communism in theory does not make sense, but people are not good.
I also don’t claim that I like capitalism. Healthcare should be free (and mostly is in my country a I would be dead in cryppling debt, or hand-less if I lived under US healthcare).
Education is on same level.
But under both strict capitalism or strict communism those important things suffer.
Also lets look at simple point from the different side: “No goverment should be totalitarian” this is statement that I sand by. Totalitarians will never work, because even if the first generation are smart and kind people who.just want the best for you. Bad poeple are way better in clymbing any social ladder and will get to the top and then you’re fucked.
Hope noone is offended by profanity, but I dont know how to translate my thougst i to english better. And I detest self censoring that people do by usinng F-ed or ******, because we all know what you meen, so what did it helped?
So if the alt right came to power and neo nacis were your government, and the’d be happy and you were told “just simply don’t complain” would that be not so hard for you?
I understand that this is a Strawman argument, but I think, it’s the only think that can be of an equivalent examle here.
If I knew it ment getting in trouble I would simply not do it.
Like, my ability to whine is not worth going to jail for. Like, how do you picture it going. Just everyday at work I sigh, look at the clock, and have to bite my tongue to keep from going on rants about how much the government sucks? I already don’t talk about how much the government sucks to my coworkers. That is just to keep the peace. If I knew jail was an option I would want to talk to them about it even less
This is holocaust trivialization. Fascism and communism aren’t the same or equally bad or something.
Not speaking out when commies seize the means of production is distinct from not speaking out when they’re rounding up minorities.
I haven’t mentioned holocaust, it was about Now and current neonacis compared to what happened to us. And yes they didn’t attack minorities explicitely, but they were not excluded. Comunist didn’t just took money and means of production, they also attacked and forcibly asimilated Roma and trird their best to dismantle religous organizations. And even though I’m atheist white male. Which was the easiest thing under that regime, it still is not something that anyone should consider okay.
Its fine to criticize the USSR for those things, we do that here. We don’t equate them to fascists though, because they aren’t and it disrespects victims of the holocaust.
And that is not what I’m trying to do, my family was in Auschwitz. But please we cannot go to the other extreme.
If you don’t want to take the example of forced Roma assimilation to communist society by forcing them to live on one place, but otherwise isolating them, so they them self can’t have efect on it.
You can look at Uyghurs in current china.
I’m not claiming here that communism in theory does not make sense, but people are not good. I also don’t claim that I like capitalism. Healthcare should be free (and mostly is in my country a I would be dead in cryppling debt, or hand-less if I lived under US healthcare). Education is on same level.
But under both strict capitalism or strict communism those important things suffer.
Also lets look at simple point from the different side: “No goverment should be totalitarian” this is statement that I sand by. Totalitarians will never work, because even if the first generation are smart and kind people who.just want the best for you. Bad poeple are way better in clymbing any social ladder and will get to the top and then you’re fucked.
Hope noone is offended by profanity, but I dont know how to translate my thougst i to english better. And I detest self censoring that people do by usinng F-ed or ******, because we all know what you meen, so what did it helped?
https://jewishcurrents.org/the-double-genocide-theory
You can’t have a blend. Capitalism or communism is about whether society is ruled by capital or the workers.