Former President Donald Trump had bragged about his success in opening the region to oil production after decades of political fighting over the resources locked under the tundra there.

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    god damn it. what a worthless president. congrats democrats, you get $5 gas while financially supporting Russia and our other global adversaries. Traitors all of you.

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      The fact that you associate gas prices with the president proves how much of a gullible moron you are.

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      Comments like this is why the rest of the world thinks the USA is a country formed by idiots.

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      ROFL! You perfectly captured the ignorance of every trump-humping coward I’ve ever talked to! Bravo!

      I do love me some parody. Well played man! Only, next time- don’t forget the /s so we all know you’re not an idiot.

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      I don’t recall pledging allegiance to Exxon or the house of Saud. Maybe the traitor is you!

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      Read the room. Gas is likely going to get much more expensive in the next few decades, and that’s probably for the best. If you don’t like it then get an electric car.

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        It’s going to be more expensive due to an artificial scarcity. There is an abundance of oil, we’re just not drilling for enough of it

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        I’d gladly pay a little more for gas knowing it came from a north american oil well than have the blood children working in african cobalt mines on my hands.

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          A billion people are on track to die from climate change, according to some estimates.

          https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-warn-1-billion-people-on-track-to-die-from-climate-change

          Even if we call that highly inflated, maybe it is, maybe it isn’t, some non-negligible number will certainly die as a result with some multiple of that facing harsh negative impacts. A disproportionate number of those will be in Africa.

          If your argument is based in morality, it’s absolutely absurd to suggest the moral concerns of cobalt mining outweighs that of climate change.

          You raised a very valid concern, let’s work to make it better instead of running back into the burning building.

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            The number of people killed by extreme weather events has been drastically declining for decades so I’m not too worried about the fear mongering of the “1 death per 1000 tons of carbon”. Especially when they follow it up with this: “This rule is actually “an order of magnitude best estimate”, which means it’s more of a range, somewhere between 0.1 to 10 deaths per 1000 tons of carbon burned.” So they are saying 10 billion people could die based on the high end of that estimate. That would be something.

            So yes, buying a vehicle powered by gasoline is far morally superior to a vehicle powered by batteries. One is a well regulated US industry with millions of high paying jobs. The other has kids dying in mine collapses to try to make $1 per day. If the industry can figure that part out then things we be a lot more equal between the 2.

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          Fuck them kids. /s

          Yeah child labor is fucked up but we need to pressure our government and corporations to get more sustainable mines and better conditions for the workers.

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            The problem is we need the cobalt and lithium, and domestic production of that is hard to come by due to lack of deposits, and the deposits we do have are being railroaded by environmental lawsuits. Damned if do, damned if you don’t. We can’t even log off forests that are already dead from beetle kill. So taking advantage of 3rd world kids is the only option.

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      We got by without those lands and we can do it again. Or are you too much of a snowflake to handle it?

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      Nothing was going to come of this, anyway.

      Oil companies themselves are not building wells anymore, or exploring for new ones. Lease auctions are just sitting there with no bids. Very little of it has to do with politics; it’s all about the payback not being there in the long run combined with the risk of another bust in the short run. Only the wells with a high chance of generating profit are getting the green light.

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        maybe, maybe not. They certainly aren’t going to try to develop better methods and technology to drill there if there’s now no chance to do so. Financially I don’t mind $5 gas, I’m sure many people will mind though. I have a problem with conflicting government polices to both fund the fight against Russia, and also ones that will directly fund Russia to fight.

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          Policies aren’t causing high gas prices. That’s the whole point, here. The industry isn’t interested in developing new wells for reasons other than government policies.

          The countries now buying Russian oil are the likes of China and India. US production isn’t going to be fueling either of them.

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            a lot of countries are buying Russian oil not just those 2. many of them backed off on the boycotts already and signed some agreement to buy russian oil, but only at “below market rates” to make themselves feel better.