• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I lived in Los Angeles for 10 years. The pollution gave me bad acid reflux, which is actually a symptom we asthma sufferers can have. I moved to a semi-rural place and that reflux went away. So you’re basically saying I should either be forced to be ill or live like I’m Amish.

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      1 year ago

      Sure cause we can’t actually have good cities.

      The options are bad cities or bucolic countrysides…

      If we all lived like you guys do in “semi-rural places” of the USA, we’d be extremely fucked. Like orders of magnitude more than we already are.

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        1 year ago

        That wasn’t what I was objecting to. I was to saying I have to live like I’m Amish because I’m doing something for my health.

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          1 year ago

          You can live in a nice city with a lot of parks, good public transit, minimal cars, nice architecture etc.

          It’s just a fact we must accept, living in a rural or semi-rural way just won’t be possible anymore. Climate change is really gonna fuck things up way too much and people don’t seem to get that.

          If we want to survive as a technologically and socially advanced species and not regress to the Stone Age, we have to give up old Medieval ideals of living in the country-side.

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            1 year ago

            You can live in a nice city with a lot of parks, good public transit, minimal cars, nice architecture etc.

            What city would that be and who is going to find me a home and a job?

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              1 year ago

              There’s lots of those in my part of the world, maybe not yours.

              But just because the cities around you suck, it doesn’t mean the idea of cities suck. That all cities suck. That we’d all be better off living in semi-rural suburbs or some other American hellscape.

              It seems your perspective on this is 100% based on your individual experience and it includes 0 big-picture thought.

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                1 year ago

                I never said that all cities suck. I was talking about the ‘anyone who doesn’t live in a city has to live like it’s the 19th century’ thing. I’ve told you that multiple times. I’m not sure how to be more clear about it.

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                  1 year ago

                  But how can REALITY get more clear? We’re going through the very early stages of global cataclysm. We will only survive as a social and technologically advanced species if we concentrate in a few small spots, and basically abandon and work to rehabilitate the other 99% of the Earth. For a long long time probably.

                  I don’t understand how living like you guys even slightly looks like a good idea unless you’re extremely self-centred and don’t give a fuck about the world. Which I guess makes sense, we’re in this shit situation because most people are like that I guess.