I am asking this because I have seen some posts in this community in solidarity with North Korea. I have heard before that trans people get reassignment surgery paid for them in North Korea but I don’t know if that is true. When I tried googling it most of the stuff that came up said that North Korea was not the best for gay people and it didn’t come up with much for how trans people are treated in North Korea. If you guys have any articles or information sources about the LGBT situation in North Korea could you link them to me, it would be very appreciated.

  • MLRiderTom@lemmygrad.ml
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    4 years ago

    The law in North Korea states absolutely nothing about anything LGBT related (So nothing is explicitly illegal, but at the same time it seems that they simply do not believe in homosexuality as a concept or something)

    In 2008, the DPRK voted against the UN’s declaration on sexual orientation/gender identity , which condemns discrimination and harassment based on sexual orientation or gender identity. Based on this, I would say that they are anti-lgbt.

    I’m guessing it’s a very taboo topic over there anyways and yeah just not something they’d be very accepting of. They’re generally very conservative and find the whole having a traditional family with children thing very important.

    In general though (and I’m saying this as an ML), Marxist-Leninist states have not been very accepting of the LGBT, with the exception of Cuba recently. Hopefully this is something we can change once we have create a socialist project in the west :)

    • Muad'Dibber@lemmygrad.ml
      3·
      4 years ago

      Luckily too this is changing pretty rapidly, Vietnam and China are moving forward on LGBT rights, and Cuba is really close to being the most trans friendly country on the globe (free re-assignment surgeries, hormone treatment, etc).

    • diamatchstick@lemmygrad.ml
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      4 years ago

      It hurts to see the anti-LGBT history of Marxist-Leninist states used as wholesale condemnation of a people’s ideology & history. Globally we are in a time right now where acceptance and understanding of gender & sexuality theory is increasing year after year. Do people think that the Marxist-Leninists, the ones with a reputation for being ‘too serious’ and grounded in ‘harsh reality’, would make it their priority to roll back this progress?

      It just hurts to see an ideology built fundamentally on progressive social change to benefit the oppressed & exploited put in the liberal ‘permanently bad’ bin. Ah well, us TanKiEs will just have to chug along and keep improving the material conditions of oppressed LGBT workers regardless.

      • Star Wars Enjoyer @lemmygrad.ml
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        4 years ago

        It hurts more to see the lack of LGBT rights be levied against Marxist-Leninists by Anarchists. People who during the American civil war sided with the confederacy. Do you know where the Marxists were then? Signing up to fight in the Union army and writing letters to Lincoln in support of equal rights for blacks. People who didn’t align with the suffrage movement in the US and England. Do you know where Marxists were then? Setting up women’s movements, and using their male privilege to legitimize female voices. Shit, Marxists in the US have been at the forefront of every social movement, including the fight for LGBTQIA+ rights. But no, us “tankies” apparently hate the gays:registered: because they didn’t have rights in a state that died before some (if not most) of us were born.

    • Star Wars Enjoyer @lemmygrad.ml
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      4 years ago

      DDR, if i’m not mistaken, had trans and homosexual rights. Other than there and Cuba, I personally can’t think of a Marxist-Leninist state being pro-LGBT. Though, China did just start important talks on LGBT rights, and I think Bolivia has a trans news anchor.