An easier way of saying this is look at what our useless news media does:
They give Republicans one free-pass after another, but hold Democrats to impossibly high standards.
“A member of the GOP tepidly condemned literal fascism under certain circumstances! So brave!” - the media
“Let’s forgive this asshole for all the terrible things he has done after his mild criticism of facism” - the media
Doesn’t matter what republicans do or don’t do, their base will vote out of identity and loyalty. They would make great peasants
Poor Democrats can never half-ass everything and capitulate to fascists without getting criticism.
The Democrats can be criticized without every act, large or small, being automatically placed into the box of “Fuck them”.
Sure, they can.
Not sure why you made this strawman of a meme then.
… because some people do place every act, large or small, into the box of “Fuck the Democrats”?
I don’t know how you got “The Democrats can be criticized” confused with “The only criticism Democrats get is”
because some people do place every act, large or small, into the box of “Fuck the Democrats”?
And some people act as though all criticism comes from such people.
Okay, well, when you next post a political meme, feel free to address that?
Or I can criticize your meme right now.
But all you’re doing is reading into it something that isn’t there.
And they can be criticized without people who are happy with everything they do pretending that they’re being unjustly vilified for well-earned criticism.
Where’s that on your flowchart?
… obviously, it’s not there, as the flowchart is quite clearly trying to demonstrate the absurdity of a particular mentality, not give all possibilities for all mindsets?
obviously, it’s not there, as the flowchart is quite clearly trying to demonstrate the absurdity of a particular mentality
It certainly accomplishes that. It demonstrates how absurd it is to pretend that no criticism of Democrats is ever valid.
Okay, well, you have fun with that interpretation.
There is valid criticism of the Democratic Party.
Yes. There is. That was never in dispute.
Your Democrats would be center to far-right in many countries. Do better.
‘Far-right’
Come now. Isn’t the fact that we don’t have a real left or center-left (or arguably even center) party condemnation enough without resorting to hyperbole?
Not far right but definitely solid right wing
Terminally online people don’t seem to understand they are out of touch with the broader electorate.
There are literal facisists being elected into Parliaments across Europe but people on lemmy/reddit keep jerking this to absurd claim that Democrats are far-right.
European politics allows more than just two parties.
If you lined up European politicians from left to right, Europe would have 75% of their politicians on the left.
America would have 99% of our politicians on the right. There would literally be like three people standing on the left of center.
75% on the left? What the hell? From an American perspective maybe, but I’d wager closer to 40%. Too many centrists, neoliberals, conservatives and racist right wing populists.
Plus, it boils the entire k-dimensional space that is ideology into one single dimension. On social issues, I would argue Democrats (at least in the past few years) have shifted to become significantly more progressive than most European parties. On economic issues, though, obviously they’re not as left-wing as European counterparts, but still certainly not far-right. This whole “Democrats are far-right” is a silly hasn’t-touched-grass-in-ages leftist circlejerk.
There’s not exactly a shortage of things to complain about Democrats for – I could certainly complain about them for hours on end – but it’s important to actually criticize them for the things they oughta be criticized for, not the leftist equivalent of “I did that” stickers on gas pumps whenever gas prices go up.
And all of the above is still ignoring that economics alone is a k-dimensional space all its own, not just one single dimension.
Y’all haven’t been paying attention to politics in Europe lately… or you’re just in denial.
Edit: meant to reply to the person saying “far right”
Wouldn’t call them far right, but they definitely are fucking mocking their voters
Aside from trains and healthcare, most Europe is actually moved to be quite conservative. We’ll see how long they keep those.
I feel like I have one branch or another of this conversation with someone weekly. It’s always someone who starts with something like, “I lean left, but…”
topples governments
Now wait a minute
pays out the people who destroyed the economy
Why are you bullying the good party
funds genocide
They are good compared to literal fascists
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“You can’t criticize us because republicans are worse.” Similarly, you can’t complain about being poor because there are people who are worse off somewhere in the world.
This but unironically
Thanks for serving as an example, I suppose.
