• Awoo [she/her]@hexbear.net
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        if Americans were willing to accept the wholesale destruction of Afghanistan.

        Americans didn’t give a fuck what happened in Afghanistan what fucking planet are you on??? They supported carpet bombing it. How old are you? Were you still a child when it started and can’t remember what it was actually like?

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          They never gave a fuck even when they armed the afghans to shoot down Russian planes, they were just a proxy US-Russia war with afghan as puppets.

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            It was fucking disgusting back then. You could speak to 99 random americans and they’d support bombing the shit out of afghan and killing whoever was necessary to get osama. It was SO fucking different to how it is now with libs at least being performative about not being bloodthirsty monsters. Back then it was bipartisan support for mass killing and obliteration. Nobody gave a fuck.

            Don’t get me started on the constant omnipresent casual racism.

            • Chapo0114 [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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              The first time I realized I was, for lack of a better word, different than the people I grew up around is when one of my high school buddies just casually said we should “just glass the middle east and get it over with”. Glassing is a term we got from Halo which means to incinerate an area with such a high heat the surface turns to glass. His proposed method was obviously nuclear bombs.

              No one else thought it was an outlandish thing to say, much less a truly abhorrent one.

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        They don’t care, Americans destroyed every building in Korea (the famous “no targets remaining” quote). Giving almost every right-wing group in the country rifles and stinger missiles, to throw the country into a permanent state of civil war, has the exact same effect as carpet bombing.

        Minus the invasion consolidating into a left-wing anti-American socialist front, which happened in Korea, Vietnam, Laos and Cuba.

        A permanent civil war, lead by a right wing government, still allows the export of surplus value which is collected by Americans. A left-wing government would try to keep that surplus inside the country to further develop means of production.

        It’s called Shock therapy and even some liberals (the most politically educated and articulate) are conscious of this happening.

        Henry Kissinger’s life work is architecting American interventions that result in right-wing reactions rather than left-wing ones. Give all the right-wing groups guns, they kill the left, the country remains defenceless from extraction, and by the time Americans intervene it’s multiple squabbling right-wing militias instead of a united socialist front with an industrial base and functioning anti-air missiles.

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        America was the one running the drug trade you absolute fucking dipshit. They didn’t want to stop it because they made bank off of it.

        if they were willing to accept the wholesale destruction of Afghanistan

        They were, and they did destroy it. What are you smoking?

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        Ah yes, there it is. The ‘stabbed in the back’ ‘we weren’t really trying to win’ American military apologia.

        Even if you bombed every single building in Afghanistan, you wouldn’t have won that war. That’s why they stopped doing it. Get fucked you stupid loser.