• lukini@beehaw.org
    49·
    1 year ago

    Blahaj zone and beehaw don’t abuse defederation. Both instances use it for the exact purpose needed to achieve their goals. And I like that.

    • Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      10·
      1 year ago

      Literally the main reason I’m on blahaj zone is because I’m a trans lesbian and really don’t want to deal with the shit I’ve seen on the blocked instances.

      The whole point of the fediverse is you join one that aligns with your values and queer phobic stuff is a hard line nope from me. It’s like the one place I feel reporting stuff actually does something.

    • Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.comEnglish
      7·
      1 year ago

      I don’t disagree with that, I even said that much in the blahaj quadrant. I just wish there was an easier way to fix these problems instead of burning bridges, because they sure burn a lot of them.

        • Echo Dot@feddit.uk
          3·
          1 year ago

          Beehaw has said they won’t defederate until Lemmy has better moderation tools. Which is something that is totally out of our control. I have no idea of better moderation tools or even on the road map and if they are I have no idea where on the road map they are.

          • Adramis [he/him]@beehaw.org
            3·
            1 year ago

            No one does, there’s a whole discourse around the lack of a real roadmap for Lemmy and what the primary devs’ goals are. Hopefully it’ll happen someday, I guess.

    • Rin@beehaw.orgEnglish
      7·
      1 year ago

      Beehaw even said they’ll refederate with certain instances if/when moderation tools improve. The main problem is that there’s not a lot you can do to block off problematic users from instances on an individual basis.

  • green_witch@beehaw.orgEnglish
    32·
    1 year ago

    If people took more than 30 seconds to read instead of being immediately reactionary, they’d have long since known beehaw’s defederations are due to a lack of lemmy’s own moderation tools currently.

    But you can’t expect anyone to read anything. 😅

    • Baku@aussie.zoneEnglish
      3·
      1 year ago

      I did read their entire statement, and while I can understand the reasoning behind it, I don’t agree with their whole defederation thing they have going on

    • Kroxx@lemm.ee
      2·
      1 year ago

      Gotta be an ass? Leave that shit in your last social media of choice.

      • green_witch@beehaw.orgEnglish
        3·
        1 year ago

        If that comment was enough to get you this upset, I don’t think you’re gonna last on any “social media of choice.” Better get out while you still can. 👀

    • jackalope
      6·
      1 year ago

      Believing in it is. As a tool of expression it has limited uses. But ultimately it’s an abstraction ungrounded from objective reality.

  • fiah@discuss.tchncs.de
    271·
    1 year ago

    isn’t the option to ignore an instance as a user coming to Lemmy real soon? I need that, hexbear can go fly a kite

    • Ragdoll X@lemmy.world
      10·
      1 year ago

      I bet OP’s understanding of politics can be succinctly summarized by this video lol

      Like in what world does lemmy.world lean to the right? It’s full of leftists and liberals, I think I’ve seen like two people who sounded like they leaned to the right.

      • Dodecahedron December@sh.itjust.works
        4·
        1 year ago

        “I went to the instance and read a post and it was right wing so they are right wing”

        TIL i am right wing because I have an account on lemmy.world. now that’s scyense!

        • Fosheze@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          1 year ago

          I think lemmy.world is just labeled slightly rightwing because of blocking the piracy communities.

          • Dodecahedron December@sh.itjust.works
            2·
            1 year ago

            You might be right but that’s a weird stance to take.

            I just wish everyone understood that hosting a website that lets thousands of anonymous people talk and post whatever they want can be anxiety-provoking. Imagine waking up and the front page of the site you own is hosting CSAM or being served a legal document that you’re now being sued by CompanyX over hosting of pirated content.

            The dark web, p2p networks, bittorrent etc all exist to fly somewhat under the radar, and they seem to be less closely regulated because they require a certain level of experience to even use. The web and apps in the app store on the other hand are easily accessible with a few clicks or taps and not much knowledge. I’ll just say that I’ve worked as a web developer for different companies and whenever we had “DCMA takedown requests” we usually had one of the higher-ups walk over to our desk and waited until they knew all copies of those files were completely removed from their servers. I’m just talking about things like breaking embargo and showing images of a product before it’s been released, not piracy or CSAM. Now figure the instance owners likely don’t have a legal team of their own, so even the threat of a lawsuit means no more instance for everyone.

            Nothing right or left wing about that. People don’t like getting sued and having to lose everything.

            • Fosheze@lemmy.worldEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              The thing is that those communities weren’t distributing pirated content. The were discussing priacy which is perfectly legal no mater how you stretch the law. Also the legal argument is bogus anyways considering division by zero, the instance that hosts that priacy community and sever others like it, is hosted in Germany which is among the countries with the harshest anti-piracy laws. It’s not like it’s some back alley dark web instance. If they were doing anything remotely illegal piracy wise the German government would have shut them down immediately. The only real reason for blocking those communities is a moral one and the anti piracy moral stance does strike me as slightly auth-right.

              • Dodecahedron December@sh.itjust.works
                2·
                1 year ago

                The difference between what you described and what I described is moderation and rules. It’s just risk and risk level that the volunteers who run the instance are willing to put up with.

                Have you considered creating your own instance? If you aren’t in the US this might be easier for you to take on this risk than say US admins.

                And if blocking is the concern, just get an account on the priacy instance! Easy peasy.

  • cazyius@lemmy.world
    13·
    1 year ago

    I’m in the Lemmy.world bubble trying to educate myself about the rest and evaluate if I might need to migrate someplace else. And also trying to figure out the difference between instances. But I can’t figure out what “based” means or is referring to?

    Thanks for this btw! It’s really informative

    • TWeaK@lemm.eeEnglish
      7·
      1 year ago

      I’m going to shill suggest lemm.ee, it’s a lovely instance that isn’t defederated from most (for better or worse, some people can’t stand hexbear but soon lemmy will add the ability to block instances at the user level, rather than defederating) and the lead admin is very sharp with the development - he’s even helped other instances when they’ve had major issues and he’s made various contributions to the lemmy codebase. It always feels like we’re getting the latest and slickest version of everything, with fewer bugs than other instances.

    • Luke
      6·
      1 year ago

      “Based” means the person using it thinks whatever they’re referring to is incredibly awesome, a paragon of virtue.

    • WoodenBleachers@lemmy.basedcount.com
      2·
      1 year ago

      Oh it’s awful. I hated it there and tried to not engage. It would have been helpful to know what each instance was like when I made an account on each of them.

  • p05@lemmy.world
    5·
    1 year ago

    So that’s why Ive not been seeing half my subscriptions. Guess I gotta swap instances again.

  • SouthernCanadian@sh.itjust.works
    5·
    1 year ago

    Shit just works almost allowed 1 conservative community is your bar for far right? Lol I’d say they’re pretty centrist but I don’t know the details of the banned community.