• duderium [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    1 year ago

    I never said I excused it. I’m just not deluded enough to think that people, as a whole, WILL actually change even if I want them too.

    I’m not excusing it. I’m just saying that destroying it is impossible. See the difference? /s

    Do you think that feudal lords thought it was possible (in the 1500s, say) that capitalism would destroy them and take over the world?

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      1 year ago

      I think you’re confusing my disappointment in humanity as acceptance of their behavior.

      Like I said, “good” or “bad.”

      Do you have anything that was produced in a sweatshop? Of course you do. You’re typing on it. So, don’t be all high and mighty now. A real communist would reject such things. I guess you’re just making excuses for capitalism too, liberal.

      As for the feudal, lords… I’m pretty sure we still have a group of rich people making decisions for all of us, and we just think things have changed—but they really haven’t and most of us are still forced to work to live. Not terribly far from indentured servitude.

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        I think you’re confusing my disappointment in humanity as acceptance of their behavior.

        I assume you believe that human nature is an omnipotent and unchanging concept that influences the material world without being influenced by it. If I am correct, how is your conception of human nature different from the Christian conception of God? And if I am incorrect—if you believe that human nature can change—doesn’t that mean that communism is therefore possible and that we should do everything we can in order to achieve it?

        Do you have anything that was produced in a sweatshop? Of course you do. You’re typing on it. So, don’t be all high and mighty now. A real communist would reject such things. I guess you’re just making excuses for capitalism too, liberal.

        Did capitalism randomly originate one day out of the void? Or was it created by feudalism’s collapse? Were the first capitalists hypocrites for using feudalism (long-term rents, for instance) to destroy feudalism itself? Do you think that any of them cared?

        As for the feudal, lords… I’m pretty sure we still have a group of rich people making decisions for all of us, and we just think things have changed—but they really haven’t and most of us are still forced to work to live. Not terribly far from indentured servitude.

        Do you live on a manor and are you a peasant, like 90% of feudal people? Do you pay half your annual harvest in kind to your lord and to the church? Are you forbidden to leave this manor by law? Are you able to access the commons for your own material sustenance (food, firewood, construction materials)? If you answered no to any of these questions, then you aren’t actually living under feudalism and there is actually a difference between good and bad things!

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            1 year ago

            And you’re rather disappointingly refusing to answer pretty basic questions. Losing ideological battles online is a prelude to losing them in the real world 😉

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              I haven’t lost anything. You claim to be a communist, and criticize others. Then when you’re called out for—and admit to—living the life of a liberal, you just make excuses for your liberal behavior.

              If you don’t practice what you preach, you’re the same as everyone else.

              Have a good night.

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                Should I reiterate the questions I already asked which you refused to answer? Just remember that it was a Marxist who defeated you, and that if you can’t beat us, you should consider joining us. Start by reading The Communist Manifesto online. It’s the last thing your boss wants you to do 😉

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                  1 year ago

                  I love it when people declare themselves the winner because they’ve talked the other party into disinterest. If you feel like you’ve won, that’s all that matters. Good for you! Here’s your certificate of participation and my further disinterest.

                  However—You’re not a communist. You’re a poseur, a hypocrite, and a troll. And if you represent the fight for communism, it’s dead in the water.

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                    1 year ago

                    If I’m poor and I fight for communism, I’m not a real communist, I just want to be rich. If I’m rich and I fight for communism, I’m a hypocrite. Who is a real communist? Do real communists exist? Please keep telling yourself that we aren’t real. It’ll make it easier for us to save the planet from bourgeois scum like yourself who are trying to destroy it.