I feel this is a representation of 2 sides of one coin or rather that thees two have similar objective but go about trying to reach it in their own very different ways, one is violent and the other is peaceful all tough they might not necessarily agree with one or the other’s way of reaching the end goal, they agree on the goal with is saving earth and the environment.

  • Rozaŭtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    831·
    10 months ago

    ‘Diversity of tactics’ is really important to achieve a goal. If all you do is sign petitions, no one will take you seriously. And if all you do is violent demonstrations, you’re gonna get treated as a hooligan with nothing to say.

    You need dialogue to raise awareness, and protests to raise the pressure on politicians.

    • PorkRollWobbly
      161·
      10 months ago

      I think it’s pretty rude of you not to introduce yourself to the FBI agent assigned to you as you typed that out.

      Gallows humor aside, this is incredibly important. Y’all need to read “How Nonviolence Protects the State” as well as “This NonViolence Shit Will Get You Killed.”

  • hackris
    82·
    10 months ago

    I support ecovandalism but not on property that belongs to average humans trying to live their life. Yeah I own an ancient car with a combustion engine, but please don’t destroy it, because I don’t have money for a more efficient one and other that it, I try to do everything as ecologically as possible.

    I use public transport when possible (even in my village in the middle of nowhere), I separate waste, save energy by not using proprietary software that’s inefficient, everything I buy is second-hand, just a few things off the top of my head. I had two windows and the windshield destroyed over the span of a few months, with all-caps text sprayed on the doors saying “I destroy the planet”… Please don’t do this, don’t be a scumbag. There are plenty of us doing their best in our financial situation :)

    • Zastyion345OP
      72·
      10 months ago

      I feel this is a representation of 2 sides of one coin or rather that thees two have similar objective but go about trying to reach it in their own very different ways, one is violent and the other is peaceful all tough they might not necessarily agree with one or the other’s way of reaching the end goal, they agree on the goal with is saving earth and the environment.

    • Zastyion345OP
      384·
      10 months ago

      I don’t see environmentalism as a political issue/political but if you want to see politics in anything hey, if there is will there is a way

      • Patapon Enjoyer@lemmy.world
        21·
        10 months ago

        It is absolutely a political issue. To quote Chico Mendes, one of the greatest conservationists, who was murdered for it, environmentalism without class struggle is gardening.

        You may not like that politics is involved with conservation, that’s fair. But it is, and the people doing the destroying are the ones who control politicians.

        • Gamey@feddit.rocks
          71·
          10 months ago

          I hate to break it to you but many Memes always where and always will be political!

        • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
          2·
          10 months ago

          Actual memes are often political because almost nothing is fully nonpolitical.

          If you think it’s nonpolitical that just means you are fine with the politics to the point that you don’t notice them.

          The act of you deciding what you think is “political” is itself a political act between what you’re comfortable with and what you’re uncomfortable with.

          Stop whining and stfu.

    • Roundcat@kbin.social
      168·
      10 months ago

      you mean the meme page on lemmy dot marxist lenninist? I’m shocked by the political nature of this place!

    • UlyssesT [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      Pretty much nothing that can be imagined is fully nonpolitical. If you think it is, it just means it has politics that you’re comfortable with that you don’t notice.