• smoothbrain coldtakes@lemmy.ca
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    I’m tired of having to screen the same shit every time a new instance spins up with morons like this.

    I’m glad they’re defederated because they were by far the most screened communities I had in my list prior to learning that Connect just has it’s own internal server blacklist and I was able to put their instances on that list globally instead of playing whack-a-mole.

    That’s something I kind of hate about the fediverse is that every time somebody spins up a new instance I have to go play whack-a-mole again with the usual suspects: sports and politics.

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      These assholes came out on day fucking one and did nothing but demonstrate that their goal was to be disruptive trolls. And then they sit there and whine about how everyone else is brainwashed, and nobody wants to listen to alternative points of view. That alternative point of view, apparently being pictures of pig shit.

      And then they are shocked that people think they are assholes.

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        Day one was three years ago. You’re a bit late.

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      You defederate or screen all sports content? Is this a personal preference, or do sports subs attract hateful content?

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        It’s not a political and sports thing, it’s just a sports thing. I just don’t care about sports at all, it clogs my feed. I just remember one day checking my front page and there were like 4 back-to-back baseball summary bot threads from that one specific sports instance and that was that.

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      You like them posting pictures of pig shit? Real high quality conversation.

      I can deal with them posting links to Lenin or Jacobin or whatever, but they literally just come in and post the same picture of actual pig shit over and over again. These are not people who have any interest in good faith conversation.

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      Blocking them will just serve to isolate them more. You don’t solve problems by closing off everyone who disagrees with each other into a thousand little bubbles.

      • smoothbrain coldtakes@lemmy.ca
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        Yeah but they’re not looking to converse they’re just looking to disrupt.

        When you argue, you are either arguing to convince your opponent, your audience, or yourself. If your opponent is not willing to budge on their ideas, well, then you’re pissing up a flagpole.

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        They have the option to do it and they did. The fediverse was made exactly for this situation and its nice it’s like this. It’s not ‘how’ it should be running, it’s more of respecting all others choices: you don’t tell people what to do. Simple.

        That move will tell you more on this community, than all the effort they could deploy to convince more people into their delirious system.

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        They weren’t engaging in good faith political discussion. They were shitting in their own hands and flinging it at people who weren’t interested in being covered in their shit. If you want to be covered in their shit you can create an account on those instances just as I can choose not to.

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    Was there any vote or announcement about this on lemmy.ca? Or are we hearing after the fact, and on another instance, that our instance has contentiously and quietly defederated from 2 other instances?

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      I understand that defederating is part of running an instance and that decisions are not always clear cut. If I were an admin, I’d report newly defederated instances in a post or something. It doesn’t seem like appreciably more work than what being an admin already entails (which must be a lot!) and makes things transparent. I’m here in the Fediverse because I don’t like what’s going on on the rest of the big tech internet, and I want to get involved in an alternate model. Hearing that a politically aligned instance was silently defederated on .ca reminds me of what I am hoping to distance myself from online versus find more of now. Ditto for the the downvotes without replies. That said, other commenters have helped me see site maintenance as opposed to political orientation reasons that could motivate defederation. On reflection, I think I want to get involved in an expressly curated (in a way that I approve of) and/or pretty transparent Fediverse environment

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        The great thing about the fediverse is that no one can stop you from participating in those instances. You can create local accounts as I have done on several instances. The mobile clients let you switch easily between accounts on different instances

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        I agree! I strongly believe we should be transparent with actions such as defederation.

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    Personally, I’m against defederation for political reasons. This feels like a mistake that will serve only to reinforce echo chambers online.

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      They weren’t “defederated for political reasons”. What they were doing wasn’t good faith political speech. They were trolls who’s only purpose was creating chaos. If you’re really dedicated to their actions this is the fediverse, you can create an account there and read and participate as much as you want. Every user can decide for themselves if there is anything of any value there. I don’t think so so I’ll be staying right here.

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      There’s a certain irony to celebrating the admins building a wall between two communities as “freedom”.

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        If a community exists only to cause issues and inflame culture warrior issues (such as anti-woke,) they don’t deserve to be given an honest chance.

        Honest chances exist for honest people. If they refuse to abide by the common rules of decency, and instead want to treat the place like /b/, we have no obligations to let them be heard.

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        If you think there is anything of value on either of those instances you can create accounts on both and participate directly. That’s what’s great about the fediverse.