I have an app for programming my chicken coop. My 401k company just created an app for onboarding new participants.

These should have been mobile friendly webpages.

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    Often, the apps are there just to collect ad information for you in a way browsers don’t allow.

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      Ding ding ding. It’s all about the tracking data. Also, notifications. They want to be able to buzz you with spam, to remind you that the app exists.

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      Is there a way to insulate apps in my phone from looking at stuff they shouldn’t? Kinda like Firefox Multi-Account Containers.

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        On iOS, in the App Store entry for each app there is a section called “App Privacy.” You can use that section to see what data the app will collect. I do not know how to prevent it from collecting that data once it is installed.

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    I hate propietary apps that are just services or stores and especially when they refuse to have a website and make you download their app.

    I do not need 200 apps on my phone. Just one web browser app will do.

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    And not every program needs an installer.

    Just because I downloaded a program to write ISOs to a USB drive, does not mean it needs to be installed on the system. Unless it’s something like MS Office, why does it need to be installed? Just give me a zip file, I will extract it and delete it when I don’t need it anymore.

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          You can tell he’s not a FreeBSD user because he doesn’t have to dive in and alter the source to make it compatible.

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        Yeah, who needs an installer when you can just ./configure, then ./make and ./make install, just stopping to fetch and build missing dependencies occasionally, upgrade some others, then retry.

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          Or just download a standalone binary. Or don’t download anything because most things are in your package manager.

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      If you’re on Windows and looking for a portable ISO burner, Rufus works great and is a 1.4mb portable .exe for that. It works great for when I overwrite Windows with Linux.

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        my directory of ‘portable’ programs has about sixty different things in it. some of which are used daily and are either in the path or are windows’ default for something.

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    My 401k company just created an app for onboarding new participants.

    “If you’d like me to run company software, you’ll have to provide a company device for me to run it on.”

    Never install work software on a personal device. Security, Privacy, Expectations (regarding personal resources).

    Along with this, never use personal software/accounts/services with company devices. You can’t be sure who’s watching and can’t be sure you’ll have a chance to remove/collect your personal data before being locked out of said device.

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      That’s not their employer. It’s the company they have their 401k retirement plan with.

      Empower, John Hancock, fidelity, vanguard, whoever.

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      100% this. I put my foot down at my last job after finding out their app demanded device location when it wasn’t being used.

      I got the fuck out the next week. Place is already sliding downhill fast

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    I rather have an app and a way to control the chicken coop offline that depend on the internet connection to whether my chicken coop works or not. That is in my opinion a right place for an app instead of a website.

    Most online services don’t need an app though.

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      Like some kind of self hosted solution on Nextcloud or something. Maybe linked in with Home Assistant or able to access it remotely via Tailscale.

      Feels like overkill but if I had the time and the money, I would love to tinker with a system like that lol

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    Totally agree. I’m hoping web apps make a comeback as well — a lot of apps in App Stores are just websites in an “app wrapper”. Start rejecting that shit and tell people to publish it as a web app.

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    I hate how all smart devices need their own apps. Lights, vacuum cleaners, doorbells, fans, etc. super annoying to go through my phone and see so many random apps.

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      I rather have an app when I need that stuff to work regardless of the internet connection.

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        As if apps weren’t basically just thin skins over browsers and needing internet connections anyway…

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    Not everything needs and app

    But then they couldn’t scrape maximum personal data, collect your contacts, have access to your mic and camera, and track your every physical movement. Your so selfish!

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      Because not everybody likes the stock interface of Lemmy. Same thing with Reddit, and why people chose to use third-party apps there, as well. Web apps aren’t always designed in the most intuitive ways for every user, and sometimes a native app can fill those UI/UX gaps, or add features that aren’t possible through a PWA.

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        why PWA and not a plain web app? I think the only difference is that PWAs can ve turned into a pinned pop-up window (that acts a bit like an electron app) when using a chromium-based browser.

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          Even then, there’s a lot of feature you end up missing out on. Even just basic navigation has to be done via the browser’s default navigation options. Even simple things like long-pressing something on the page will typically only give you access to your browser’s long-press menu (though that’s not always the case, in my experience very few web apps handle this effectively).

          Personally, I prefer the experience of a native app. But I get why it’s not appealing to all people.

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      The most useful PWA I have found is Voyager, and its app counterpart is way better IMHO.

      Native android/iOS apps are way smoother for daily navigation, you also get some perks like notifications and that.