What a difference a few months can make.
Ahead of Italy’s election last fall, Giorgia Meloni was widely depicted as a menace. By this summer, everything — her youthful admiration for Benito Mussolini, her party’s links to neofascists, her often extreme rhetoric — had been forgiven. Praised for her practicality and support for Ukraine, Ms. Meloni has established herself as a reliable Western partner, central to Group of 7 meetings and NATO summits alike. A visit to Washington, which takes place on Thursday, seals her status as a valued member of the international community.
But the comforting tale of a populist firebrand turned pragmatist overlooks something important: what’s been happening in Italy. Ms. Meloni’s administration has spent its first months accusing minorities of undermining the triad of God, nation and family, with dire practical consequences for migrants, nongovernmental organizations and same-sex parents. Efforts to weaken anti-torture legislation, stack the public broadcaster with loyalists and rewrite Italy’s postwar constitution to increase executive power are similarly troubling. Ms. Meloni’s government isn’t just nativist but has a harsh authoritarian streak, too.
For Italy, this is bad enough. But much of its significance lies beyond its borders, showing how the far right can break down historic barriers with the center right. Allies of Ms. Meloni are already in power in Poland, also newly legitimized by their support for Ukraine. In Sweden, a center-right coalition relies on the nativist Sweden Democrats’ support to govern. In Finland, the anti-immigrant Finns Party went one better and joined the government. Though these parties, like many of their European counterparts, once rejected membership in NATO and the European Union, today they seek a place in the main Euro-Atlantic institutions, transforming them from within. In this project, Ms. Meloni is leading the way.
Since becoming prime minister, Ms. Meloni has certainly moderated her language. In official settings, she’s at pains to appear considered and cautious — an act aided by her preference for televised addresses rather than questioning by journalists. Yet she can also rely on colleagues in her Brothers of Italy party to be less restrained. Taking aim at one of the government’s main targets, L.G.B.T.Q. parents, party leaders have called surrogate parenting a “crime worse than pedophilia,” claiming that gay people are “passing off” foreign kids as their own. Ms. Meloni can appear aloof from such rhetoric, even suggesting unhappiness with its extremism. But her decisions in office reflect zealotry, not caution. The government extended a ban on surrogacy to criminalize adoptions in other countries and ordered municipalities to stop registering same-sex parents, leaving children in legal limbo.
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Journalists, too, are under pressure. Sitting ministers have threatened — and in some cases pursued — a raft of libel suits against the Italian press in an apparent bid to intimidate critics. The public broadcaster RAI is also under threat, and not just because its mission for the next five years includes “promoting birthrates.” After its chief executive and leading presenters resigned, citing political pressure from the new government, it now resembles tele-Meloni, with rampant handpicking of personnel. The new director general, Giampaolo Rossi, is a pro-Meloni hard-liner who previously distinguished himself as an organizer of an annual Brothers of Italy festival. In the aftermath of his appointment, news outlets published scores of his anti-immigration social media posts and an interview with a neofascist journal in which he condemned the antifascist “caricature” hanging over public life
This is not his concern alone. Burying the antifascist legacy of the wartime Resistance matters deeply to the Brothers of Italy, a party rooted in its fascist forefathers’ great defeat in 1945. As prime minister, Ms. Meloni has referred to Italy’s postwar antifascist culture as a repressive ideology, responsible even for the murder of right-wing militants in the political violence of the 1970s. It’s not just history to be rewritten. The postwar Constitution, drawn up by the Resistance-era parties, is also ripe for revision: The Brothers of Italy aims to create a directly elected head of government and a strong executive freer of constraint. No matter its novelty, Ms. Meloni’s administration has every chance of imposing enduring changes in the political order.
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Success is hardly inevitable. Ahead of last week’s election in Spain, Ms. Meloni addressed her nationalist ally Vox, declaring that the “patriots’ time has come”; in fact, its vote share fell and right-wing parties failed to secure a majority. Even so, Vox has become an enduring part of the electoral arena and a regular ally for conservatives. Despite their growing success, such forces have for years been painted as insurgent outsiders representing long-ignored voters. The more disturbing truth is that they are no longer parties of protest, but increasingly welcome in the mainstream. For proof, just look to Washington on Thursday.
What’s missing is what a huge difference the media makes. Once you control the media, you basically control the country, as can be seen in Hungary, Poland and Russia. All of these states have put in massive efforts to install their own cronies as media leadership, and you can see this happening in other countries too. Now it’s Italy.
Then on the other hand, you have billionaires that flood the people with cheap tabloid bullshit, of course to paralyze honest debates around things that actually matter (climate change, wealth inequality, etc) and instead refocus the populace on scape goats (LGBTQ rights, abortion, etc).
Far too often, „serious“ media fails to defend against the bullshit, and at some point will also report on these „issues“ as „this is what the country is talking about“. What they are ignoring is that this conversation is deliberately led by bad actors, and by picking it up they are legitimizing their positions.
Then they invite complete lunatics to discussion to provide a „balanced viewpoint“, when there is no balanced viewpoint to be had for certain issues: the earth is round, climate change is happening, and it is our fault. Period. There can be no further discussions on the facts.
The misinformation campaigns are massive, the astroturfing is massive, and is probably happening even here. It is too cheap and works too well to not do it.
The misinformation campaigns are massive, the astroturfing is massive, and is probably happening even here. It is too cheap and works too well to not do it.
Yes, the power of stories is incredible - and human’s likeliness to believe stories over facts, setting aside critical thinking over immediate feelings. Ref. Yuval Noah Harari.
Also:
“the earth is not round”
Flat. The earth is not flat.
I can’t believe I mistyped that 🤦🏻♀️ you are right of course.
Religio-Fascists led by a megalomaniac took over India in 2014. People ignored their fascism and voted for religion :(
Doesn’t look good in France as well. Macron doesn’t control the cops, and they are assaulting people freely.
I worry about the seemingly inevitable Le Pen presidency even more. I don’t feel safe at all in this country anymore.
Doing my best to move to Canada but I really don’t have the money.
Even then, Canada might be in a better spot atm, but even there the fascist parties are gaining in influence; nowhere is safe.I mean, Macron is already doing some authoritarian shit, forcing unpopular laws on people, cops assaulting people, we’re currently sliding fast… but I’ll stay. I have the money, but I won’t leave the people here and I’ll try to do the best I can to stop this shit.
Le Pen will not pass because of her past reputation and failures that no PR will erase, I’m more worried about the next generation she taught to look impeccable from the beginning, also worried about not being able to tell the difference between traditional right and far right anymore.
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Except the mainstream parties that still manage to hold on to power can’t upset the status-quo. Redistributing wealth is out of the question when the voting base simply does not believe it can or should be done, and all the mainstream media grooms that narrative.
I don’t see a way out. The elites protect themselves, and they own the media because news media simply isn’t profitable. With growing discontent, intensifying fascism is the only avenue left for elites looking to protect their assets at all costs by diverting attention. What can we do against such crushing systemic power to misdirect popular anger?
Germany’s neo-nazi party AfD is polling scarily well too. All of EU is turning into an authoritan hellscape. My wife and I are seriously considering leaving.
Where is it actually any better?
I’m in the US and was planning on bugging out to the EU if shit gets worse here. So I guess I need a new plan B as well. But if the US and a large part of the EU go full fash, will anywhere be safe?
How about we all decide on one country to go to? Then that country will automatically be better. I vote Netherlands, they have a headstart.
A million dollar (drachma ?) question right here
yeah, getting feedback from the European Parliament from the left doesn’t look good either. But at least some people in France are still fighting.
If everyone opposing authoritan hellscapes is leaving. Ofc it will turn out to become one. I wouldn’t worry that much about the afd yet, to gain power they need 51% in parliament since no other party will do a coalition with them. So for now the worst that can happen is them getting elected on a district level.
That up/downvote count though
France is already a police State. The gov is doing what the cops want without asking.
Yes, it is. Well done for describing what’s happening. What do you think we should do about it, now we know it’s happening?
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Don’t vote fascists into power?
That seems a little too late, they’re already in power.
Sure, I just tell the people voting for them not to do it. They‘ll certainly be understanding
I would like to see what Italians see and think, it is easy to have limited view from outside.
If someone has link where Italians discuss this issues, my deepl translate is ready.
Honestly I think the article is pretty fair, overall.
The biggest difference between having a massive right wing pseudo-fascist party in a government majority and that same party leading the majority is how little they feel the need to feign. Like now the right hand man of Meloni can totally bring up the craziest world conspiracy with no proof at all, say he didn’t know it was a bad thing only to repeat the same things a week after.
The politicians just don’t have to pretend anymore, and they’re slowly stretching the boundaries of what’s normal in favour of their own plans.As for the life of everyday people, I’d be hard pressed to find someone, anyone, actually praising this government in public, everyone I hear talking about whatever they come up with is either disgusted or concerned.
I believe what’s happening now is the same thing that was happening back in Berlusconi’s days: the ones voting for these people are aware that what they’re doing is wrong and they hide in shame until they’re sure they’re surrounded only by the right people.You can check out our lemmy instance, feddit.it, but it’s not super active.
I will, it was easier with r/italy since when I see topic of interest there were enough comments to understand different angles.
r/Italy
Ew
Italian here. All politicians are fascists powertripping not just the ones who made it public. See Macron. Governments live behind a veil of lies and don’t get to show their true face unless needed, if there were serious protests in any “democratic” country in the world i can guarantee you that the reaction would be the same: they would unleash police on people and threat everyone.
This is the exact thing I am concerned about, they pick on some but not on others.
To me it looks like it is just medua game to push someone people controling the media don’t like. I don’t think Meloni is good by any means, but from my angle looks less or on same level of fascist like Macron, Anglela Merkel, Biden, Hillary… or most others top politicians (when you look at their influence in other countries and not just what media is promoting).
What I don’t understand is why Melony? She is not from the same school or something?
Ahhh fascism. Is this 1923 or 2023? Fucking people
People freely choose to vote fascists to power, and then wonder why their country has turned into hell.
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They don’t wonder, they blame immigrants. See Brexit.
In India, they blame religious minorities (Muslims & Christians) and the oppressed castes (Dalits, Adivasis (Adi = first, vasi = resident, Adivasis are India’s indigenous tribals), & Bahujan)
The educated middle-class & upper-middle class who are mostly upper-caste take the lead in this villification.
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“So are you vegetarian by birth or by choice?”
Is a question I’ve heard that Indian engineers hear a lot in big US tech companies that hire a lot of H1B engineers. I’m not from India myself, but even I can see where that’s going.
Why would US companies care about caste? Or does that question only come up because of Indian hiring managers/HR people?
It’s other Indians at work deciding if you should be kept or stabbed in the back.
That’s such a “What caste are you?” sneak question. Usually they are more direct and ask “So, what’s your full name” and persist in trying to know the newcomer’s lastname/ surname. Because the surname/ lastname is a caste marker.
Another trick men from the upper/ oppressor caste do is to casually & in a friendly manner put their arm across the new colleague’s/ classmate’s shoulders to sneakily check whether they’re wearing the Brahmin-caste thread. Or they invite the new guy over for a swim, to visually confirm presence of the Brahmin caste marker.
Babasaheb Ambedkar (Dr. Bhimrao Ambedkar who is called Babasaheb with love & respect) had visualized this situation. He had written that if Brahmanism (Hinduism) goes abroad, casteism would become global problem.
The UK Primi Minister Rishi Sunak’s mother-in-law, Sudha Murthy, is openly & proudly casteist proclaimig that when she travels abroad she carries her own spoon, because she doesn’t want to use cutlery that could previously have been used by a non-vegetarian/ meat-eater.
My ex-gf was Indian and she got rid of her surname legally because she hated the caste system so much. And she was from the upper castes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populism
Populism refers to a range of political stances that emphasize the idea of “the people” and often juxtapose this group against “the elite”.
This has been a prime weapon in politics lately.
The approach is a bit more mixed in India.
Populism is used in India to turn Hindu supremacists against educated Hindus who oppose Hindu supremacism. The rest of the hatred is fuelled by religious extremism under the guise of nationalism/ patriotism and ever famous “Hindus are in danger” (in a land where 85% of 1.4 Billion people are Hindus and where Hindus hold all the power) to turn them against religious minorities.
To turn people against those from oppressed castes who oppose Hindu supremacism is easier since caste-oppression is ingrained in India. No action gets taken against those who inflict any kind of violence or dehumanization or violence against oppressed castes. Only when any videos of such an atrocity become viral, is there any lip-service about ‘punishing the guilty’.
If fascist are put into power trough Democratic means then the people get the fascist government they deserve. Turkey had to chance to get rid of Erdog yet they overwhelmingly re-elected him.
But when voting happens in a society that is misinformed, usually maliciously so, like in Turkey, it is not democratic, democracy works and is true to itself only when a vote is informed.
Turkey is a big examples of that, but this extends to many countries as well, it’s usually the uneducated and historically illiterate that fall for fascism
In Nazi Germany it was the wealthy that voted him in. The establishment feared the left and colluded with Hitler.
Usually fascism stems from the bourgeoisie, not the lower class. But through disinformation from the class that controls information it manages to get promoted from the lower class too.
The caste at the topmost of India’s super-shitty caste pyramid (who are very good at playing victim while actually victimizing everyone else) created the Hindu supremacy ideology and the wealthiest merchant communities and corporates have funded it and dispersed it via their in-home mainstream media.
India too, Hindu supremacist and fascist Modi’s 2nd term is almost up and the country is down the shitter.
They’re not even fascists, they don’t believe one word they say. I’d have more respect if they did. They are adverting space plastered with what sells at the moment. Right now the root of all evil is the stranger, come (and you let him enter) to take your jobs (you didn’t want those anyway) and your women (hopefully, you’re too busy with soccer). Silly tricks for a population (I’m Italian, so I include myself) of idiots.
Well… Not that i voted for her nor will I ever… But trust me, the alternatives were garbage…
I stopped voting last 2 election because it was getting embarrassing…
All promises in campaign, then they internally fight over position and roles then make the government collapse and so on…
Nothing is stable, nothing gets done, every situation is just “something the previous government left and that we have to face” over and over again.We did not choose her…she was just the only one who didn’t yet have a go at it.
It’s stupid, not ideal, but the standard around her is just trash
Italy sure does love fascism
If only it was Italy alone…
It’s not something new that is spreading, it has been the case for over a century. We have always been ruled by corrupted politicians, they always lies during elections and then push for authoritarian measures that benefits the elites. People seem to realize this only when the party they don’t like gets elected, “left” and “right” is a trick to keep these two up in power in a cycle. This Meloni scum is nothing new, they are a puppet of people who have been ruling the country since 1945. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvio_Berlusconi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Licio_Gelli
Saying that ALL politicians between the 1920s to the 2010s in Italy is wrong. You can search about De Gasperi, Berlinguer, Giolitti (I know, different eras) and others. I’m not saying everything they did was right, but they not all politicians are as bad as your comment is depicting.
This attitude of “all politics and politicians are equally dirty” is straight out of the russian propaganda playbook. This is the narrative they’ve pushed in my country for decades, and it’s chillingly effective. It closely resembles whataboutism, whenever you criticize a politician, people yell “AS IF THE OTHER SIDE IS BETTER.”
Why push this narrative, you ask? So that people become so disillusioned and apathetic that they don’t vote, so it takes less votes for Russia to get the parties it wants into power. It also breeds internal dissent, malcontent, instability, leads to low voter turnout.
Russia also pushes a version of this at home, and in allies like Belarus. The gist being, all politics is dirty and corrupt, don’t get involved, don’t vote, nothing matters, it doesn’t concern you.
So yeah, sorry about the rant, but when i see variations of that quote “if your vote mattered, they’d make it illegal”, i get really annoyed. If your vote mattered, they’d make you think it doesn’t so you don’t vote.
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I made absolutely no mention of Ukraine and i would have written this comment with no changes ( and i probably have ) years before the invasion. It’s a strawman on your part to assume i uncritically support Ukraine ( or the US or EU for that matter ), just because i’m criticizing Russia. And if anything, i feel like we echo the same sentiment in both our comments, that just by criticizing one side doesn’t mean that the other doesn’t have flaws.
It just doesn’t mean they’re equally bad either.
using illegal inhumane weapons
What part of war is humane?
Russia brought war to Ukraine and I fully support them using whatever it takes to send Russians packing.
Sound like you are being brainwashed to stupidity, the thread is about Italy not Russia. Since you seem obsessed with it i suggest you to read Bakunin thoughts on Mazzini.
At the very start, i point out that this worldview of all politics and politicians are dirty and corrupt is being pushed by Russia in many countries. I didn’t think i need to mention that i’m including Italy.
Is it? I must have missed Russia advocating for freedom
Well, that’s exactly the idea behind state’s propaganda.
Anyways, I keep my opinion that not all politicians are bad, in my case I only know well about Italy and the US.
Also, the discussion made from the other user references to the Russian history, but the argument is the same, so I don’t understand what the problem is, being the thread about the same concept.
name 2 politicians who have been in power in the past 20 years either in italy or US who you don’t think are bad
Not bad as in “ovverral good” or not bad as “never wrong”?
Anyways I’d say Marco Pannella and Mattarella. (not always good, but overall not that bad)
The US president in the 20 years are either racists, kill children’s with drones or they lie and starts war in Iraq, so no I don’t want to select any US politician for the role of “not bad”.
Don’t think the italians are any better. Mattarella is in charge right now, he’s part of the government the post is about
Giolitti was literally an imperialist https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Giolitti#Libyan_War
There may have been some politicians better than other but there’s not such thing as a good mafioso. Whoever wish to sit on the throne and rule with power on others is scum. We are all humans living in the same world, nations are invisible lines arbitrarily draw on a map.
Well, he also devided il Sud and il Nord. But this isn’t the discussion.
It’s about “not everything politicians make is bad”. I know that this is usually an argument made by people that sympatieyz Mussolini (“però i treni arrivavano in orario” - any far-right sympatizer), but I think that in some cases it’s actually not a bad argument (for example, Giolitti and MAYBE but maybe Berlusconi).
Not everything kings or popes make is bad, expect such figures shouldn’t exist in the first place. Police states are the same.
I feel like I have written this way too often within the past year, but… fascists doing fascist stuff
I sincerely believe that the right wing populism in Europe is the inevitable backlash to Angela Merkel’s open door policy on immigration and “refuges” in the EU.
Thank you for your write up. It’s becoming harder and harder to stay up to date on all the new wannabe fascists in Europe.
I’ll drop in with my thoughts on it in Germany. In Germany, the far right party is at 20% in recent opinion polls. Scary. But 60% of the potential right voters say they just vote them out of protest. It wouldn’t be that hard for the other parties to turn that ship around, but I don’t see anything happening. The big parties are following their utterly liberal ultra capitalist line, which of course makes people poorer, which generates a lot of displeasure in these uncertain times. People are looking for simple answers. And while “smash capitalism” would be the simple correct answer for 98% of people, sadly there is no party that propagates that. So “it’s because of the immigrants, it’s because of the dictators in the EU” from the right that gets fed to the people as a simple answer, and they get the vote.
But IMO, this protest vote only goes to the right because of a lack of alternatives. The problem is our left party is too busy with wokeness topics (which are important, sure, but they still just don’t resonate in most people) and in fighting among themselves. So nobody votes for them as a protest as they absolutely lack any substance right now. And our left still has a “Russia problem” as they mostly emerged from the letters of eastern Germany. This is course doesn’t help. So people vote for the right.
I still hope a new left party would emerge, but as long as there isn’t, and as long as the big center-“left” party doesn’t change course, I see the rights just getting stronger. Especially since the center rights adopt talking points from the far right, as they see it gets them votes.
Another interesting (and scary) fact is, that the several right parties in Europe formerly were totally against Europe. They still are, just not openly anymore. Now they learned that in order to destroy the EU, it’s easier to get voted into it, closing ranks with all the other nationalists, and starting to dismantle it from within.
I’ll just repeat what @superkret@lemmy.world said, build networks, maybe we gonna need them soon!
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This comment and the fact that it’s also massively upvoted perfectly demonstrates the problem. Not an analysis of the problem or an solution, but THE problem: You are brain-washed by propaganda and living in some opposite-world were right is left and left is right.
So let’s start at the top:
“But 60% of the potential right voters say they just vote them out of protest.”
Nope, that’s bullshit. That’s an excuse. And that quota will decrease with “voting fascist” becoming socially accepted behavior.
(Also, just like the last time the fascists will not get more votes until they come to power. They will be elevated to power by other parties, the ones pretending to refuse any cooperation today. That’s another 70-80% -those proclaiming to never form a government with the AfD- that is completely imaginary and just cheap talk. For some parties this might be actually true. For a lot of people it isn’t. And the weakest link right now is the political failures for decades now leading the biggest/conservative party with his own brand of right-wing populism.)
“It wouldn’t be that hard for the other parties to turn that ship around, but I don’t see anything happening.”
Because that’s also bullshit. There is no simple real life solution to imaginary problems and invented scape goats. Only if you believe the AfD’s propaganda already you believe in non-existing fantasy measures that the governing parties simply refuse to take.
“The big parties are following their utterly liberal ultra capitalist line”
And now you totally lost it. Yes, there is a party with an ultra capitalist line aiming for no social secuitry net, no taxes for the rich. It’s called the AfD. It’s in their program even, as they don’t need to lie when most people are too lazy to actually start reading it over the propaganda fed to you in easier form.
Not surprisingly, the people wanting this know. Or who do you think is financing the AfD? Billionaires, old remains of aristocracy, multi-billion “familiy business” pretending to be middle-class, rich land owners. Those are the AfD clients. You are just a tool.
“The problem is our left party is too busy with wokeness topics”
And the next right-wing narrative. “Woke” is a right-wing invention. There are also no “woke topics” heavily pushed by left parties. It’s the right that is doing all the talking. They again invented some imaginary issue -in this case things like “gender inclusive language pushed by the left”- to fight against. The problem as usual: The issue doesn’t exist. They fight against an imaginary forced use of certain language, while nobody is forcing anyone. They are also the only ones actually regulating how we are allowed to speak (AfD and CDU locally banned use of gender inclusive language in parliaments already).
The Afd (and to a lower degree the conservatives) are the ones pushing the issue to have something to rally their voters against. Here’s who is actually talking about Gender all day:
“And our left still has a “Russia problem” […] So people vote for the right.”
No, the Left is very fragmented and diverse, so they have probably still a few people individually more attached to Russia than the West. The actual Party with a “Russia problem” is the AfD again. They got partly financed by Russia, they parrot Kremlin taking points. But -as seen- you already live in a propaganda-induced alternative reality. So why should one more delusion matter, right?
“I still hope a new left party would emerge”
Let me guess? Some new left party, like that clown-show Wagenknecht is celebrating… parroting far-right talking points and Russian propaganda while pretending to be left? A.k.a. the living embodiment of the horseshoe or “far-right for pussies afraid to openly stand for their far-right bullshit”?
Congratulations. You are spreading AfD bullshit while either pretending or being so confused by propaganda to actually believing to fight against the far-right.
Sorry, to say that. But if you are an average example of the voters (and the fact that this piece of written diarrhea is heavily upvoted supports my fears here…) then we are truly and utterly lost and the fascists will win.
But 60% of the potential right voters say they just vote them out of protest.
voting for nazis “out of protest” is just a thin veiled excuse for voting nazis
It has been happening all around Europe and the rest of the world. It seems you missed what the fuck is going on in the last couple years in world politics.
Tl;Dr ?
The left has its responsibility in this. People are struggling with the bills at the end of the month. The left speaks of minorities and has a similar neoliberal economic view. The politics on minorities are important and the left have to keep them in their program/agenda. Adopt a real left economic view.
But, people don’t care about you if you’re talking about it in the news and debates. The left has to center their campaign around the daily struggles to speak to the people with the people language.
The greens parties have a similar issue. People know them for ecology and ? People don’t know the other parts of the program of the greens parties. They have to stop speaking about ecology and begin with the other topics so people knows how they can help them with the end of the month.
These all need to connect with people again with the people language.
The centre-left parties in Italy have been pushing for a minimum wage law since the early spring, when the biggest party (PD) finished its congress and a new direction was elected. The right wing majority has now voted to delay any kind of discussion on the law proposal for two months, and the right wing minister for external affairs has gone on record saying things like “minimum wage is a Soviet measure” and “we need a rich wage, not minimum wage”.
That’s a typical fascist strategy, blaming other parties.
The greens parties have a similar issue. People know them for ecology and ? People don’t know the other parts of the program of the greens parties. They have to stop speaking about ecology and begin with the other topics
And right here you are falling for propaganda without even realizing it. It’s not the green parties failing to talk about other issues. It’s other (usually right wing - as basically all greens are also socially left) parties drowning this out, because they know they can divide people by pushing their noses into the ecological problems (and the economic hardships naturally linked to trying to reverse centuries of exploitation).
(Btw… Just like it’s also never actually the left parties talking all day about “woke” topics. That’s also the right-wing parties creating an imaginary discussion because it’s divisive.)
I’m sorry but does that say to weaken anti-torture? Did I read that right?
Yes, Meloni and Salvini see anti-torture laws as an unnecessary obstacle to the work of police officers. Here is an article (in Italian).
very very big yikes
The world is changing, the golden decades of our parents’ post-war reality are over, the sun is setting once again on European soil.
I don’t know exactly what kinds of nightmares await us in the darkness, but I do know that the bloodlust of the European populace will not be sated easily.
Expect extraordinary efforts to subdue, abuse and eventually exterminate people once again. The European populace will not be a bastion of humanitarian ideology in the face of climate migration. It will instead declare war on them, and brutalize them.
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I’d disagree with your first statement, because there will always be ways for private comunication, especially here, because of how (at least technicly) educated people are here.
And also unlike in China, if something like that’d come now, people already have the resources to set up their own comunication systems.
Tldr: even with Gestapo officers everywhere protest and change would still be possible, hard but possible
I don’t speak italian, could you tell me what stuff the article covers?
Basically a reform of the Italian penal code that would delete the dedicated articles in penal code and leave only an aggravating circumstance
