Agreed on the culture around logic and rationality! A lot of reductionism and weird fucking consequences.
I had to overcome/deprogram some of that bias when I was young. Ironically I came to that conclusion by simply trying to be consistent in my rationalism and grounding it in my lived experience, which exposed many of my contradictions.
Rocco’s Basslick: Of course the argument is that this occurs when technology has developed so far that we can’t just unplug it anymore, but that really goes to show how much extrapolation and how many assumptions you have to make just to participate in a conversation about it - and that, of course, is the trap: You have to leave rationality at the door in order to play the rationalist’s game. They act like the more speculative a situation is the more certain we can be about it, when clearly the opposite is true.
I can see this bullshit for what it is probably better cause I flew sorta close to that sun. I was never not kn the left but I did hang out with a bunch of gen x hippies who were into Robert Anton Wilson and that sorta nonsense which is the initial spark that all of this nonsense sprang from. That’s more the acid tech bro angle, but the logic bro angle comes on hard as well. If you’ve listened to the TruAnnom masterpiece The Game, the earlier episodes about Synanon (which Leonard Nimoy attended often before it got too culty) and the general ideas behind the games and the psychology behind the psychology they were peddling wasn’t uncommon ar the time and has had major ramifications. There was this boomer idea of enlightened rationalism that came from acid, misunderstood eastern religious stuff via the Beatles and the rise of computers that turned a lot of people into the most rapcious freaks to slither this earth. We’re all part of the Manson family fulfilling an acid ruled dream of race war cause we live in a world imagined by people who were like Phillip K Dick, read Phillip K Dick and in their cocain and acid addled minds decided his vision was positive. Gene himself exemplified this boomer perversion, he was a sex freak weirdo who bought into his own bullshit. These people need to be stopped and their ideas destroyed, full stop.
Agreed on the culture around logic and rationality! A lot of reductionism and weird fucking consequences.
I had to overcome/deprogram some of that bias when I was young. Ironically I came to that conclusion by simply trying to be consistent in my rationalism and grounding it in my lived experience, which exposed many of my contradictions.
Rocco’s Basslick: Of course the argument is that this occurs when technology has developed so far that we can’t just unplug it anymore, but that really goes to show how much extrapolation and how many assumptions you have to make just to participate in a conversation about it - and that, of course, is the trap: You have to leave rationality at the door in order to play the rationalist’s game. They act like the more speculative a situation is the more certain we can be about it, when clearly the opposite is true.
I can see this bullshit for what it is probably better cause I flew sorta close to that sun. I was never not kn the left but I did hang out with a bunch of gen x hippies who were into Robert Anton Wilson and that sorta nonsense which is the initial spark that all of this nonsense sprang from. That’s more the acid tech bro angle, but the logic bro angle comes on hard as well. If you’ve listened to the TruAnnom masterpiece The Game, the earlier episodes about Synanon (which Leonard Nimoy attended often before it got too culty) and the general ideas behind the games and the psychology behind the psychology they were peddling wasn’t uncommon ar the time and has had major ramifications. There was this boomer idea of enlightened rationalism that came from acid, misunderstood eastern religious stuff via the Beatles and the rise of computers that turned a lot of people into the most rapcious freaks to slither this earth. We’re all part of the Manson family fulfilling an acid ruled dream of race war cause we live in a world imagined by people who were like Phillip K Dick, read Phillip K Dick and in their cocain and acid addled minds decided his vision was positive. Gene himself exemplified this boomer perversion, he was a sex freak weirdo who bought into his own bullshit. These people need to be stopped and their ideas destroyed, full stop.