The “independence movement” is pretty lightweight and lib-flavored as it currently exists. People here know about it though, or at least have seen the “Doug flag” (avatar for this account) at soccer game or bar around town.
It is pre-marketed, and it is less difficult to backdoor a progressive liberal into a conversation about “socialism with Cascadian characteristics” than it is to beg and plead them to join the “spooky communist” PSL (these MFs are off-put by the DSA like half the time).
The more serious stuff can come later, but it is absolutely necessary to demolish the idea that anything good will happen at the federal and recognize that liberalism is a dead ideology when it comes to resusting the fascist elements of the Republican party. This has been clearly demonstrated for 12 years. Liberals: how long until you fucking do something that isn’t in the MSNBC news cycle?
The “independence movement” is pretty lightweight and lib-flavored as it currently exists. People here know about it though, or at least have seen the “Doug flag” (avatar for this account) at soccer game or bar around town.
It is pre-marketed, and it is less difficult to backdoor a progressive liberal into a conversation about “socialism with Cascadian characteristics” than it is to beg and plead them to join the “spooky communist” PSL (these MFs are off-put by the DSA like half the time).
The more serious stuff can come later, but it is absolutely necessary to demolish the idea that anything good will happen at the federal and recognize that liberalism is a dead ideology when it comes to resusting the fascist elements of the Republican party. This has been clearly demonstrated for 12 years. Liberals: how long until you fucking do something that isn’t in the MSNBC news cycle?