I can hear this post in their voices. Maybe I’ve seen the movie too many times…nah

  • Aceticon@lemmy.world
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    A multiverse is something external to any one universe in that multiverse, so even in an infinite number of universes there cannot be one which redefines what’s outside that universe.

    The way it was stated is not a paradox, it’s simply logically invalid.

    Valid statements would be that in a multiverse there can be one universe where it’s impossible to access the rest of the multiverse or that there can be one universe were the theory of the multiverse was never and will never be thought of.

    And then of course, on top of this there is @Carnelian’s even bigger point, which is that it’s perfectly possible to have an infinity of possibilities which are all bound by certain rules. A simple mathematical example: there is an infinite number of decimal numbers in between the integers 0 and 1.

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      Yeah, if there’s a multiverse where all possibilities play out, and if any universe can directly affect another, then there’s an infinite number of universes that do affect or get affected by others and there’s an infinite number of universes that don’t.

      Just like time travel with multiple timelines. If you travel back in time, you’re splitting off at least 3 timelines. One is the original where the past remains unchanged and you timetravel, one is the original where the past is the same and you fail to timetravel, and one is the original timeline up to the point that you travel to, at which point it diverges probably very drastically (which makes me think that traveling back in time will be a one way trip because your original timeline won’t be very close to the new one’s future). Though if you can travel back to the future, there will be one version where you never do to pair with the one where you do.

      Though I’m not holding my breath on any kind of direct influence between universe and timelines other than maybe something like gravity from one can affect others, and really don’t think that traveling from one to another will be possible. But who knows what is really possible, as advanced as we might be compared to our past, I wouldn’t be surprised if our knowledge is still just a drop out of a whole ocean.

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      A multiverse is made up shit and there’s no set of objective rules about what can and cannot be.

      Unless you have some official document of multiverse rules produced by someone who isn’t just making shit up (i.e. Marvel).

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          Huh well I’ll be. I’m not going to pretend I understand any of that.

          But I’m also going to go out on a limb say I doubt anyone here is speaking in terms of quantum mechanics.

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            Many worlds interpretation is the real-world root of the type of multiverses being talked about here.

            Crudely put QM says pretty much everything that happens on very small scales is determined by probability. The Copenhagen interpretation says all possibilities collapse into the one that actually happens. (Wavefubction collapse).

            Many worlds says that every possibility happens in some universe or another. But it’s not talking about human choice. For random hydrogen atom #52737373 it’s more ‘universes exists for every possible position of its electron.’

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      are u saying that all those who up voted the meme, did it just bc they didn’t understand what they were reading? tbh i didn’t even understand the first sentence you wrote. That means you must be very smart. Not sure if i will up vote u