Donald Trump has suggested large numbers of Palestinians should leave Gaza to “just clean out” the whole strip, after ordering the US military to restart shipments of 2,000lb bombs to Israel.

The US president said he wanted Gaza residents to move to neighbouring nations, and that they could be displaced “temporarily or could be long-term”, after a phone call with Jordan’s King Abdullah on Saturday.

“I said to him: I’d love you to take on more because I’m looking at the whole Gaza Strip right now and it’s a mess, it’s a real mess. I’d like him to take people,” Trump said, when asked about the call.

He also suggested Egypt as a destination for Gaza residents, and said he would raise the issue with President Abdel Fatah al-Sisi on Sunday.

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    I guess it’s time for all the “protest voters” to either admit they never gave a shit about Palestine or admit they fell for Russian propaganda.

    Of course that’s if they remember about Palestine. A shiny red ball might have rolled past and distracted them.

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      It’s time for people to understand that the blue and red party in america are the same shit and voting someone else or not supporting the government is the only way to make a change.

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        Voting for one of the clowns that got <1,000,000 votes isn’t going to accomplish anything.

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            Even an extra million split between the greens, libertarians, socialist workers, etc isn’t significant compared to the 70+million that the Democrats and Republicans each get.

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      What was Biden or Kamala gonna do that woulda been better than this?

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          Supplying the munitions for a genocidal carpet bombing campaign? That’s better?

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        You keep asking like you WANT to know, but that’s just you sealioning like a good .ml chud.

        We all know what you’re doing and you’re detracting from any sentiment people outside your echochamber can form on your group.

        Personally I don’t enjoy genocide supporters so I’m going to tell you to fuck all the way off. You could suck start a shotgun for all I care 💁

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          The genocide started 15 months ago and has been steadily supplied and defended by Biden/Harris

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      @generalemergency,
      Dnc centrists who wouldnt let any possible supporters of Palestinians into the democratic party convention are the real unsung heros here, right?

      Do your posts like this one make you feel better about yourself? Thats why you’re posting isnt it. You told yourself you ‘held your nose’ while voting but you didnt really hold your nose at all. You were happy to drop every semblence of basic human morality and dignity in order to win-- and then you lost anyway.. Now you’re angry at those on your own side who didnt shit their own bed and roll around in it like you did.

      To win at all in the future and reclaim the demographic losses, the dems need to admit that what was done in Plaestine was wrong. They need to admit Biden and Harris both were not doing their job and not representing the working class, but were simply chasing corporate and special interest campaign dollars. If the party can do that it might survive. Otherwise its probably dead, becuase No one thinks the democrats stand for anything, and the rage evident at the elites related to Luigi’s prosecution is increasingly the response toward out of touch dem leaders. No one supports corporatists so get your shit together.

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        It’s funny you think there will be legitimate elections in 4 years. I mean Republicans are already pushing ways to give Trump a third term. So like, congrats on having Gaza screwed even harder while simultaneously throwing away any semblance of democracy?

        At least the corporate corrupt Dems gave a small window for changing things democratically while not screwing over Trans people in the USA as well.

        By abstaining you allowed the greater evil to prevail, not prevented any evil from occuring.

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          Well, at least you can whine about how other people voted, and that’ll make you feel better, I guess.

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            Nah, but I can live with knowing I at least tried to stop literal Nazis from gaining absolute power.

            Can you say the same?

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              Do you think Musk wouldn’t pay Democrat to get what he wanted? He literally manage to get his wealth while 2 Democrat presidents held office.

              I believe he just change teams because it was expected after Biden left the race.

              I do believe he knew before it is official that Biden would drop and Trump assassination attempt and moment was clear that he will get the same votes as before so he diced to get favor early.

              Some timeline:

              Trump assassination attempt was on July 13, 2024

              Public Musk endorsement was on the same day.

              Biden left the race on July 21, 2024

              I do believe that while he might not be publicly a Nazi he will get what he need throughout Democrat president based on his history.

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                  While worded clumsily, I believe they were trying to say “had a Democrat become president, he would continue ‘hiding his power level’”

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            Thanks for finishing the genocide, Biden was getting tired and your support for Trump is really gonna help israel out.

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          Watching you comment, I despair that dems didnt learn a damned thing from this election loss.

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            And what lesson would that be? Because I’ve seen that line of thinking parroted a suspicious amount lately and I’ve seen one person actually explain what they mean.

            So enlighten me.

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              And what lesson would that be?

              I’ll humor you, although I’m surprised you’ve not heard this yet:

              What Dem leadership should have learned:

              • Have to get back to operating from a platform, not vibes or cult of personality.
              • No more genocide. Get back to leading from principle rather than realpolitik. Explicitely ditch the far right zionists-- we can make money elsewhere, and we are not a far right party.
              • Be the party of the people. Lower and middle class votes are needed to win. Get back to expanding social programs.
              • Stop insulting people. We don’t “go high when they go low”, we kick their ass wherever they are, but we don’t insult voters, and we also dont self-censor for comity’s sake.
              • To move fwd and reunite the coalition that is the Dem party, we have to acknowledge that the party hasnt been doing what the people want, and was also engaging in a genocide. No more weasel words around that. Lets get it over with.
              • Act like the party is a coalition, not a centrally controlled imperium. Stop kicking the left in the face.
              • Dont look for votes form the right.
              • Dont lionize bipartisanship as a goal unto itself.
              • Create metrics for success and be accountable for them.
              • Publish a long term plan for the party, and candidates who wont adhere to it shouldnt be in the party.
              • Kick out the right wingers. When we get Bidens/Manchins/Liebermans not towing the line, remove them from their committees and dont fund their re-elections. No dems should be against the platform like Biden did for ~40 years being anti abortion. He should have been kicked to the curb decades ago.
              • No more “seniority” in congressional leadership appointments. Go by merit and votes of the constituents.
              • term limits for leadership appointments.
              • A code of ethics. For starters, dems shouldnt ever be trading stocks the legislate on. It soils the image of the whole party when individuals are corrupt, and that needs to stop. Pelosi needs to go for her decades of insider trading. That never should have been permitted.
              • Set a mandatory retirement age for Dems. 70 sounds reasonable. If you are a judge you leave after 70 as soon as a dem administration can appoint your successor. No more waiting for death/incapacity and hurting your party when you go out that way. Lets get these people thinking of the party over their own arrogance. It took everyone way too lont to admit Biden was not fit to run again. That was BS. Party members should have been able to question his competence earlier.
              • No more telling states they cant vote in the primary like the dnc did with new hampshire.
              • no more shenanigans during primaries like Hillary did with Bernie… They should be fair votes. No more effing superdelegates.
              • no more locking constituents out of the convention. The DNC doesnt get to censure voters requests. Those corrupt sons of removed need to admit they work for us.
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          The party with the best option to beat trump is still walking around with no future because it has its head up its own arse. They cant admit that abandoning the working class and embracing zionist murder for some campaign cash is going to keep them from winning in the future. And Hasbara is still paying its trolls, clearly.

          What makes you think bots left? They are probably low cost to run once theyve been set up. By bots maybe you mean the opinions you dont like dont post as much? Yeah everyone feels defeated and hopeless. Most of my friends wont read the news anymore. I dont blame them.

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              Except to the Palestinians who aren’t being massacred like they were for the ceasefire. Pretty common for Democrats to say things like this though… what was it that Biden said, “You ain’t black unless you vote for me!”

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            Dear me.

            As a matter of fact, I’ve never been to Germany or anywhere in Europe for that matter.

            I’m Australian, and just happen to be using a server with a .de TLD.

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                Hah. We’ve never had “concentration camps”, that’s a specific term referring to a specific thing.

                It’s true that Australia’s treatment of asylum seekers in recent decades has a lot to criticise.

                I’m not really certain why you’re so fixated on my heritage and the associated ethical misadventures of my compatriots?

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                  ‘Why do you care that I’m a white south African from apartheid days when you’re accusing me of being racist? What does that matter?’

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        Dnc centrists who wouldnt let any possible supporters of Palestinians into the democratic party convention are the real unsung heros here, right?

        The guy you’re responding to never said that. You’ve discredited your entire comment in the first sentence and there’s no reason to even bother reading the rest of whatever you wrote.

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          My dood, it is a two party system. Both parties sucked shit when it came to this issue, and the DNC lost votes due to this fact (as one side seems to like some genocide anyway). This issue across both awful parties is implied in the first post and is countered in the “discredited” comment, you know with the whole “held your nose” line. Guess you did not read that far…

          You don’t have to agree with the statement, but if you read that “discredited” comment you would see both of you; Know the worse party of the two won, and more importantly one of you seems to have an idea on how not to have the same thing happen again.

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            My dood, when he opens with a flat out lie about what the guy he’s responding to said, I’m not going to bother reading the rest of it. I thought that I made that pretty clear. So trying to have a discussion about the rest of what he had to say isn’t going to be very productive.

            Yes, it’s a two party system and both sucked on this issue. But one sucks a whole fucking lot more on it and also sucks on literally every other issue there is. And I’m not going to coddle a bunch of people who can’t see that.

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              My dood, I am telling you they did not open with a flat out lie about the comment they are replying to. They are making a point you don’t like, sure! But no where was there a lie about what people said, just inferences made.

              Like cool, you dislike what was said, but spending more time defending your stance of not reading then just reading and downvoting is wild and silly.

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        By your comment, should we assume you’re the ones who thought that a known racist and islamophobe with ties with Israel would be the best option for Palestinians?

        Well, Palestine won’t exist in the next election cycle. What lies will you trust next?

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          Are you talking about trump or biden? Not very clear

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          The irony of you losers high handing people. You lot lost this last election.

          Who do you think you are? You’re right down here in the mud with the rest of us. The party brand is in absolute tatters and trust in it has never been lower. Heck of a job. And then you try to lecture people? Its absurd.

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          If you voted for genocide…that was a mistake.

          I didn’t vote for genocide. What did you do?