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Aliens
While I do not think that Aliens was a bad film at all, I kinda wish it wasn’t a sequel to Alien. It’s a completely different film, far more action-oriented
Then again my view is probably significantly coloured by the fact that I enjoyed the first one a lot more
That’s one of the reasons it’s so good. Alien is perfect space horror. Aliens doesn’t try to match it but tells a different kind of story with some of the same characters.
I think that’s the fun of the movie. It’s not trying to recapture the suspense or tension of the original. It’s a natural evolution in a world of monsters. In the first movie, the crew are just people trying to survive on a ship in space with a terrifying novel threat. Any other monster movie sequel, they find new victims and run it back, but the characters in Aliens react as one should to a new threat. Gear up and go at them with soldiers and weapons.
It’s still terrifying because you and they know what lurks in the wet shadows. They are prepared to fight it which is why it’s an action movie, but it’s still very much an Alien sequel.
Oh I agree that it is an Alien sequel, I’m just saying I wish it hadn’t been. For me, it kinda cuts down on the dread that the xenomorph can create when there are dozens of them charging into a hail of automated machine gun fire and getting slaughtered.
I don’t think that they actually executed it very well, but I am far more keen on the ideas brought about in Prometheus and Covenant. That’s what I personally want out of Alien sequels. Just ideally with, like… a second look over the script. By anyone.
The same could be said about terminator 2
I’m not sure about that, actually. There’s a similar power dynamic involved — Arnie’s terminator is unstoppable compared to Kyle Reese, but then the T-1000 is unstoppable compared to Arnie. Worse, it can now be anyone in almost any scene
Terminator 3, on the other hand…
It’s a completely different film, far more action-oriented
Terminator 2 is tonally almost completely different from 1. 1’s soul is much more a horror movie, complete with a damsel in distress and a heavily uncanny villain. 2 had every chance to lean into that sense of unease, but really doesn’t explore that uncomfortable emotion despite the T-1000 being much more threatening on paper.
I’ll take your word for it; it has been a long time since I’ve watched either of them, so my memory of the tone is probably not on the money
Which (IMHO) is the reason it works so well. The first movie can’t be topped because we’ve seen the Alien and the tension can’t be repeated (see: the later movies which try this same formula and fail). Aliens takes that and ramps it up in a different way to make the desperation of escaping with firepower on your side still nerve wracking!
The 3rd installment also takes a new twist and different approach but doesn’t succeed as well (I still found it enjoyable, and rewatch from time to time.
Everything since then has been a cash grab of hot garbage.
You don’t have the fear of the Alien and the tension from Ripley without the first movie… in my view, but yes it is a totally didn’t feeling movie otherwise.
Game over, man
The correct answer. The perfect duology.
I was about to say no, but you convinced me. They’re both phenomenal.
The Dark Knight
The Empire Strikes Back
Empire Strikes Back.
And if you’re into “it’s so bad it wraps around and becomes hilarious” films, Troll 2.
Shrek 2
You know what, thread closed. What a perfect movie.
Godfather 2
Paddington 2
Evil Dead 2, though it’s arguably a re-telling vs a sequel.
People who grew up with the original will probably flay me for this.
Bladerunner 2049 was a better movie than Bladerunner. It took everything that was great about the original and improved upon it.
The original is a masterpiece. That said, I loved the sequel and have rewatched it multiple times. However, I don’t know if it is because I love the film or just anything Ryan Gosling is in 🤤😅
The first movie I saw with Gosling was Lars and the Real Girl. I didn’t get his appeal then, but I do now. I should watch that movie again because as weird as that movie is, I think his performance is stellar.
I agree wholly. He’s just so handsome and talented to boot.
Knife Guys™ is so freaking funny too.
I guess I will need to rewatch 2049 again (I’ve only seen it once, in the cinema at release). I’ve watched the original quite a few times since though and I’m increasingly of the opinion that it’s quite overrated and gets heavily carried by the visuals and the soundtrack, so I could see a case being made for the sequel being better.
The story / writing is pretty bold too. It’s nothing new by modern standards, but it was probably relatively novel in 1982.
It is great.
I don’t think there’s a better movie sequel than Terminator 2. It’s the reason why it’s still an ongoing franchise today.
Would people still watch the first Terminator if it wasn’t for Terminator 2?
The first one is still a great movie. It’s biggest hindrance is the low quality stop frame animation when Arnold is just the skeleton. I wish they would re-release it with the fan made improvements to the stop motion that have been done.
I like Terminator 1 a lot more than T2.
It’s much more grim-dark with horror elements. I would even go as far as saying there are subtle cyberpunk motifs in T1. There is also a modicum of character development. Michael Biehn (Kyle Reese) does a great job.
T2 feels more like a teen’s summer action movie in comparison. It lacks that edge and is overly sentimental.
I will note that growing up I liked T2 a lot more than T1.
Bending the rules a bit here. I know it is not a true sequel, but it’s part of a trilogy. Hot Fuzz is better than Shaun of the Dead. Also, except for the second film, I think the Mission Impossible series just gets better with every entry.
Why do you think Hot Fuzz is better? Not arguing, I love both movies! I had never thought to compare the two
Shaun of the Dead is on my “perfect films” list but I’m sure it’s at least in part because of its context in my life.
I just think the joke ratio is a lot higher and they’re all excellent jokes as well. Plus there’s tons of little moments which you can pick up on multiple viewings.
Shaun is still a great film, I just think they got better with Fuzz.
Not OP. I think that Fuzz just got more budget and looks less campy than Shaun due to that and stylistic choices, but I love both equally and I don’t think filming Shaun like Fuzz would make it better. HF packs action and SotD shines in it’s long shots when we see parts of it’s storytelling in the background, they both have different vibes and the way they are filmed and edited serves them well.
Ed Wright and their shared cast are so talented they could’ve made anything a cult classic, even an omegaverse\Twilight crossover where Simon Pegg, haphazardly tanned to look like Jacob (pre-RenEsme lock-in), struggles to find a match with a vampire omega and joins the Edward\Bella story only to steal Edward; Nick Frost serves as his werewolf bro giving the least useful advices Simon blindly follows; also it’s suburbs of London and the soundtrack is full of hair metal for some reason.
Shit, now this idea would haunt me for years.
For a while, Mission Impossible kept getting better, but Dead Reckoning was absolute dog water and it killed all my interest in the franchise forever.
I know it is not a true sequel, but it’s part of a trilogy. Hot Fuzz is better than Shaun of the Dead.
I think we’ll have to agree to disagree here.
I liked MI2 better than MI:III
it’s been a while since I’ve seen them, so I can’t really remember why.
About two years ago, I watched all six, as there were then, over the course of a couple of weeks. For me, the second film stands out as being the weakest.
I think I need to watch Dead Reckoning (formerly part 1) again as I was slightly disappointed seeing that.
I think Dead Reckoning is a good, and poignant, concept, but I think it suffers from weak writing.
It suffered a bit from the same issue as the video game Uncharted 3, where they wrote the action set pieces first, then wrote the story to fit them together. I’m not sure if that’s what happened in the writing of Dead Reckoning, but that’s how it felt.
Overall I still liked it, and look forward to the next one, but it isn’t as strong as the previous 3 films.
Wrath of Khan
Short Circuit 2
Number 5 is ALIVE!
Los locos kick your ass.
Los locos kick your face.
Los locos kick your balls INTO OUTER SPACE!
Mad max 1 was a revenge cop story nobody watched outside Australia
Mad max 2 was the apocalyptic Mad max everybody know
Godfather II. The first is honestly kind of hokey and people are really stupid when they are trying to be clever. GF II has higher levels of tension and the execution of everything is smarter. And Robert DeNiro just slays playing young Marlon Brando.
