Need to stop with any fantasies that US needs Greenland in order to gift Russia anything whatsoever. Russia has access to both oceans and does not need to go anywhere near Greenland to even ship to US or Canada, much less Europe. It does not care about any resources in Greenland because the closest consumer is eastern Canada and US.
Yes Trump wants to leave NATO. If Greenland stays part of Denmark/NATO then that can threaten US.
In the event of a military blockade by NATO after America leaves NATO, Russia’s only route to the Atlantic would involve the Panama Canal or going around Africa or South America.
And Trump is also totally coincidentally trying to take the Panama Canal too.
If EU wants to blockade trade between Russia and eastern Americas, it needs to blockade vast international waters between Iceland and UK, in addition to Baltic sea. Blocking such trade will be viewed as act of war by Russia and Americas, and Russia navy alone is enough to break through/sink EU blockade, or nuke the degenerates.
There is extreme likelihood of EU understanding Russia makes a better friend than US in long term, and failure of this understanding is certain electoral failure. That center-moderate support for nazis in Ukraine is not the obvious moral high ground over home nazis, that happen to be nato skeptics, everyone here seems to think it is. The Ukrainian nazi diminishment of Russia is only a EU favour to US.
Russia has a Pacific coast that means it never needs to use Panama Canal.
A blockage of military ships and not civilian ships is not out of the question.
And having pacific ports and no access to the North Atlantic would mean using the Panama Canal or going around Africa or South America to reach the Atlantic.
They would only need access to North Atlantic if shipping to North America. This would be because they are welcome to ship there, and they would join in seeing it as unwelcome any blockade efforts. There is an international waters path to get there. Greenland and Panama have zero impact on Russia.
Those international waters are very narrow and have been a thorn in the side of Russia forever.
They invaded Ukraine to get access to the Mediterranean through the Black Sea and Turkey because they have no current way of getting Naval ships to European shores without circumventing the globe or sailing through the narrow stretches of the ocean that NATO is capable of blockading.
Those international waters are very narrow and have been a thorn in the side of Russia forever.
The narrowest passage between Iceland and other NATO member is 800km wide with paths that have no international rights for jurisdiction/interdiction.
Crimea has better ports, but Russia still had Black Sea border without it, and had a lease for port prior to the nearly unanimous referendum to abandon a Ukraine made to hate the vast majority of Crimeans. Crimea was a gift to Ukraine in 1957, people still alive, and there was little to no ethnic Ukrainian migration to the area.
At any rate, Turkey can permit access to Africa/ME. Other NATO members can only stop trade with themselves, with Spain preventing access to Atlantic.
It’s half that distance to the Faroe Islands, meaning NATO only has to control half that distance, which is well within the range of land-based anti-ship defenses.
Whereas free Russian movement along Greenland’s coast would be protected if it was under the control of a Putin-friendly US. They’d be even safer going through Bafin Bay to the West of Greenland. Od course that would only happen if Canada also left NATO.
And on a completely unrelated note, Trump is also trying to get Canada to become a US territory.
Whereas free Russian movement along Greenland’s coast would be protected if it was under the control of a Putin-friendly US
First, you need to stop with Putin friendly US fantasies. But doing so would make Putin friend EU much faster. The reason to for a Putin friendly US is entirely to diminish/colonize Europe even more than Biden did.
A Putin friendly US still doesn’t need Greenland. EU oppression exists without Putin friendliness. EU is not to be permitted to block Russian trade with US, with US-Russia alliance. Greenland for US has absolutely zero benefits to Russia in a normal world. Only to better threaten EU with missiles and aircraft.
The US simply wants to move away from wars it cannot win, towards easy wars. Including vast gains on an already subservient EU. Rather than framing the world in Putin Derangement Syndrome, EU needs to focus on the direct enemy actions of US towards it. Those who advocate for increased subjugation as desperate measures to appease an enemy should be shut down. Russia never wanted to be EU’s enemy, and EU needs to wake up as to who its real enemies are.
Trump is also trying to get Canada to become a US territory.
Directly hateful to Canada. Picking a war US can win without fighting. Europe is next. You need to stop right there instead of framing your thinking around the idiocy of escalating war on Russia or China or Iran as “any part whatsoever towards a solution that frees you from US aggression”.
Need to stop with any fantasies that US needs Greenland in order to gift Russia anything whatsoever. Russia has access to both oceans and does not need to go anywhere near Greenland to even ship to US or Canada, much less Europe. It does not care about any resources in Greenland because the closest consumer is eastern Canada and US.
Yes Trump wants to leave NATO. If Greenland stays part of Denmark/NATO then that can threaten US.
In the event of a military blockade by NATO after America leaves NATO, Russia’s only route to the Atlantic would involve the Panama Canal or going around Africa or South America.
And Trump is also totally coincidentally trying to take the Panama Canal too.
If EU wants to blockade trade between Russia and eastern Americas, it needs to blockade vast international waters between Iceland and UK, in addition to Baltic sea. Blocking such trade will be viewed as act of war by Russia and Americas, and Russia navy alone is enough to break through/sink EU blockade, or nuke the degenerates.
There is extreme likelihood of EU understanding Russia makes a better friend than US in long term, and failure of this understanding is certain electoral failure. That center-moderate support for nazis in Ukraine is not the obvious moral high ground over home nazis, that happen to be nato skeptics, everyone here seems to think it is. The Ukrainian nazi diminishment of Russia is only a EU favour to US.
Russia has a Pacific coast that means it never needs to use Panama Canal.
A blockage of military ships and not civilian ships is not out of the question.
And having pacific ports and no access to the North Atlantic would mean using the Panama Canal or going around Africa or South America to reach the Atlantic.
They would only need access to North Atlantic if shipping to North America. This would be because they are welcome to ship there, and they would join in seeing it as unwelcome any blockade efforts. There is an international waters path to get there. Greenland and Panama have zero impact on Russia.
Those international waters are very narrow and have been a thorn in the side of Russia forever.
They invaded Ukraine to get access to the Mediterranean through the Black Sea and Turkey because they have no current way of getting Naval ships to European shores without circumventing the globe or sailing through the narrow stretches of the ocean that NATO is capable of blockading.
The narrowest passage between Iceland and other NATO member is 800km wide with paths that have no international rights for jurisdiction/interdiction.
Crimea has better ports, but Russia still had Black Sea border without it, and had a lease for port prior to the nearly unanimous referendum to abandon a Ukraine made to hate the vast majority of Crimeans. Crimea was a gift to Ukraine in 1957, people still alive, and there was little to no ethnic Ukrainian migration to the area.
At any rate, Turkey can permit access to Africa/ME. Other NATO members can only stop trade with themselves, with Spain preventing access to Atlantic.
It’s half that distance to the Faroe Islands, meaning NATO only has to control half that distance, which is well within the range of land-based anti-ship defenses.
Whereas free Russian movement along Greenland’s coast would be protected if it was under the control of a Putin-friendly US. They’d be even safer going through Bafin Bay to the West of Greenland. Od course that would only happen if Canada also left NATO.
And on a completely unrelated note, Trump is also trying to get Canada to become a US territory.
First, you need to stop with Putin friendly US fantasies. But doing so would make Putin friend EU much faster. The reason to for a Putin friendly US is entirely to diminish/colonize Europe even more than Biden did.
A Putin friendly US still doesn’t need Greenland. EU oppression exists without Putin friendliness. EU is not to be permitted to block Russian trade with US, with US-Russia alliance. Greenland for US has absolutely zero benefits to Russia in a normal world. Only to better threaten EU with missiles and aircraft.
The US simply wants to move away from wars it cannot win, towards easy wars. Including vast gains on an already subservient EU. Rather than framing the world in Putin Derangement Syndrome, EU needs to focus on the direct enemy actions of US towards it. Those who advocate for increased subjugation as desperate measures to appease an enemy should be shut down. Russia never wanted to be EU’s enemy, and EU needs to wake up as to who its real enemies are.
Directly hateful to Canada. Picking a war US can win without fighting. Europe is next. You need to stop right there instead of framing your thinking around the idiocy of escalating war on Russia or China or Iran as “any part whatsoever towards a solution that frees you from US aggression”.