The Metropolitan Police have launched a murder investigation after Marianne Kilonzi was found dead in Woolwich on Friday.
  • crime [she/her, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
    59·
    4 days ago

    “VP of something or other” is a title banks typically give to middle management iirc, definitely far from CEO down unfortunately (even if some ghoulishness is a prerequisite for her position)

  • LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    22·
    3 days ago

    The title bloat in MEGACORP America is nonsense. “vice president of trade and working capital sales” could be a fancy term for middle management who makes some decent money. This certainly not one of the final bosses of capital, this is barely even a name special enemy.

    Also this seems really “domestic abuse”-y.

    • glans [it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
      113·
      4 days ago

      having trouble formulating this thought but

      the available information points to the death being femicide / intimate partner violence / abuse

      like sometimes we have “critical support” for “comrade cancer” etc. but it’s hard to get behind what is decribed as a fucking woman beating death as some sort of class victory.

      • ChaosMaterialist [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        601·
        4 days ago

        It 100% is domestic violence. I don’t support, including no critical support for, the violence, but I also don’t waste tears for dead bankers.

        • glans [it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
          26·
          4 days ago

          nobody was asking you to cry for anyone.

          I don’t cry for almost any articles I read about deaths including those who were great people.

          I really have a hard time tho with the idea of “tango down”. That makes it sounds like you are siding with the aggressor in this situation. It isn’t like “comrade cancer” where the adulation is directed towards just some natural process that did the deed against all available human interventions. It was a human being, probably a cis man, probably who had some sort of sexual/romantic relationship (at least in his mind) whose hands (or an object they held) literally hit this woman over and over and over again until she bled to death, or until she had a stroke or an infarction or something.

          In the history of class struggle, we rarely conduct assassinations in this manner. We are killed like this routinely. The method of death suggests top-down. Even though she was a banker and probably scum. It is overall I think a bad omen that women even at this level cannot protect themselves from petty men bullshit.

          • ChaosMaterialist [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            141·
            4 days ago

            I understand where you are coming from. Truthfully I feel worse for making you feel bad, and in the interest of our own solidarity I apologize and I’ll leave it alone.

            • glans [it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
              9·
              4 days ago

              ok, i get you are backing down

              but shit dude my feelings are of no consequence. adhere to what you said, or have indecision, or change your mind, based on your mind. not on my emotions. who cares of my emotions.

              don’t back down to save my feelings.

      • ChestRockwell [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        37·
        4 days ago

        Fully agree here. Especially since the motivation was likely not rooted in material politics there’s no need to cheer it.

        Also, I’m not going to condone adventurism, but also any adventurists, if you do it brace-dark-cowboy

        Don’t do it liz-society

        But if you do, be clean about it, no need to beat someone to death ypg-brace.

        But yeah I don’t think this is praxis, just a bad thing happened to a bad person shrug-outta-hecks

    • helloworld55@lemm.eeEnglish
      23·
      3 days ago

      So we’re just blindly supporting murder now as long as the person is a corpo?

      • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        1·
        3 days ago

        What do you mean by blind, and what do you mean by support? I don’t think anyone here is in a position to affect the outcome of this situation either way, the most we can do is decide how to feel about it. So the real question is “are we happy when corpos die” and like…yeah, usually.

        This one is so-so, not very high ranking and went out in an ugly personal way unrelated to her actions. I feel the same way here as I would about, for example, a career cop who dies of an overdose and is found by his young kid. It’s normal to have empathy for a person dying, especially from a cause that’s horrifyingly relatable because it cuts across all classes, like addiction and intimate partner violence. At the same time, it’s also correct to note an enemy down, and to extend that empathy to the many victims of the machine they were knowingly serving, whose purpose is to facilitate the visiting of profitable violence on millions of others.