• Aquilae [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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    10 hours ago

    At least on Rednote, billionaires like Elon and the US itself already seemed to be somewhat looked up to. I hear that’s the attitude most people have in places like Shenzhen and Shanghai.

    Yeah I don’t see anything good coming out of this at all. I just hope this stays isolated to Shanghai.

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      9 hours ago

      At least on Rednote, billionaires like Elon and the US itself already seemed to be somewhat looked up to. I hear that’s the attitude most people have in places like Shenzhen and Shanghai.

      That attitude existed before Rednote users interacted with Americans. The exchange seems to have done a lot to discredit the chinese-facing propaganda that lead them to believe these things.

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          Literally all I need to post in the “why do you americans hate Elon Musk so much” threads before they’re like “Oh.”

          But before that, just describing how capitalists exert a malign influence on our government was adequate.

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            I’m still not sure what to do with the ambivalent feelings toward MAGA that they have. They keep saying we need to work with them to have a proletarian uprising, but I’m not sure if they realize that MAGA is the fascist vanguard

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              they don’t understand that america is a settler colony and thus there are inherently different (and more difficult, i would say) class dynamics to work with than there was in china. same mistake that pretty much all the great socialist leaders like lenin stalin mao etc made, that resulted in all the glowing writings about america that patsocs like to misuse, they did no real investigation so on a surface level they apply the basic “all workers of the world unite” lens to it, not understanding that white workers have very real material incentives to fight against socialism. specifcally for thinking we should try and work with MAGA people is they probably think it can just be twisted into “socialist patriotism”, like china or vietnam did, but they dont understand that patriotism for the US inherently means patrotism for a country whose reason for being was and still is the exploitation and genocide of POC around the globe.