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Chinese tech is miles ahead of Western counterparts and protectionism is likely unnecessary, I agree. But won’t Western companies’ noncompliance with Chinese data storage laws prevent mainstream social media like Facebook from being allowed nationwide? Off the top of my head, I believe that one of the reasons Facebook was banned (besides protectionism) was that they refused to store data of Chinese users within Chinese borders or something, meaning that accessing it with a VPN was fine but not through direct Internet connection.
I would imagine China is going to apply same rules to foreign media that they apply to domestic media.
I think Mao is mostly right about this, chinese tech industry is more than able to outcompete western counterparts at this point so opening up has more pros than cons. I disagree with the glazing statement of “… leading to a rise of companies like NVIDIA, OpenAi, Tesla, Facebook, google and X.” Out of these, only NVIDIA is a company that China can look up to and its slowly turning into yet another financial product like the others mentioned.
I’ll copy my comment from a different post about this article: I don’t see this ending well. ChatGPT is trained on western media, Facebook and it’s subsidiaries (not calling it by that other name Zuck, you can go fuck yourself) are FULL of American sinophobic and anticommunist propaganda, the list goes on. This seems to me like that particular party member or group of members assumes that the west will engage in good faith with them, and won’t completely ignore everything that the Chinese government requires, while America’s government is forcing the theft of IP from a Chinese company for “national security reasons” or some bullshit like that. I don’t see doing this going well for China and I hope Beijing pumps the brakes on the idea and continues to work with companies that will follow their data protection rules.
Well, it could be interesting as an experiment to strengthen their position. Mankind two experiments, the first XHS, with Chinese rules, and the second facebook and Co, with freedom rules.
And then the Chinese people can see for themselves which create a more human interaction environment, and how much propaganda they get back from it.
Also, by allowing a big centre like Shangai to interact, they’re going balls deep showing to the US public opinion the starking difference of life’s conditions.
Also, lemmygrad is that, in a way. We know how well this place works under its tight rules. Would we want it any other way? Thank you to the beautiful comrades of the admin team, btw.
But I agree, they need to keep a tight leash on the experiment.
Also, by allowing a big centre like Shangai to interact, they’re going balls deep showing to the US public opinion the starking difference of life’s conditions.
That’s not how anything works though. If you go to a Western platform and post content about the reality of China that runs against the propaganda agenda of the West, that content is simply going to be either removed outright on a platform like Reddit or soft censored and shadow banned on Facebook/Instagram/Twitter. The Twitter Files already went into this.
The “international” internet held captive by the Western media oligopoly isn’t some “level playing field” where the “marketplace of ideas” or “free speech” can take place. There’s a reason why everyone here is on lemmygrad rather than back on r/genzedong - because the latter was banned for challenging the Western narrative about Ukraine back in 2022. A billion Chinese coming onto the Western-owned internet isn’t going to be some “I am Spartacus” moment but will simply have them corralled and made to toe the line just like what the West has done in many respects to the Indian userbase. With modern algorithms and AI assistance, it would be easier than it has ever been to censor out the new Chinese voices, especially if (guaranteed given how they’re reacting about RedNote) the US state lends its resource.
Thank you for interjecting here. You articulated the thoughts that were running through my head when I read that reply better than I would have been able to. TBH, this is a lot of what I meant in my original comment. The person you were replying to is leaving out one key element, a element you account for, which is that there’s an assumption that American government, platforms, media, etc, is operating from a position of good faith, something that objective reality has shown to be absolutely false. The ruling American oligarchy does not operate in good faith, ever. They will lie, cheat, and manipulate anything and everything to suit their narrative and increase profits. The market reigns supreme, until it becomes more profitable to corral it. Protectionism is bad, except for our own protectionism. I could continue but I think this beats the dead horse enough.
