Ok, so imagine that you’re a billionaire and a really smart dude (as claimed by so many people on the internet). And you get into government and appear on TV and want to look good. You might hire a publicist, a PR team, some speechwriters, hell how about a body language consultant. When you go on TV you’re going to project exactly the image you intend to. Anything less would be careless and stupid, right?
So yeah. This was a Nazi salute. And if you really want to argue that it wasn’t, that Musk doesn’t even know what a Nazi is, you gotta also accept that he’s grossly incompetent and should not be in government at all. Throw him out, we didn’t vote for him.
I’ve found online that /s is almost always needed. May take a bit from the joke but also, clarifies for everyone that you are not actually being an asshole when you can’t visibly roll your eyes and use the proper “sarcasm inflection”
Tbh one of the things that makes detecting sarcasm vs actually just defending him hard is that normally you can use prior knowledge of a persons opinions to help, but here I have no clue who you are and what your positions are and you might just be a random Nazi.
If you really don’t like just having the /s there, one options is to include a spoiler and put the /s in there a few lines down.
Fair. I’ve spent most my life working with the neurodivergent community, so even IRL I know some very intelligent people need a bit of help with implied meaning. I know I’ve had my fair share of “woosh” moments
Eh, the richest and arguably most powerful man on the planet just did a Nazi salute, twice, on live TV. I think it’s understandable that some of our nerves are a bit frayed when it comes to sarcasm/jokes about the subject.
The internet is a different place than it used to be. These days every third person you see might tell you the California fires are caused by having too many black folks in the movies and be completely sure of themselves that this is a fact. It is no longer safe to assume sarcasm when you see someone say something ridiculous.
And if you just laugh and agree with it (sarcastically) or ignore it, then you’re going to get new people seeing this for the first time, not getting that it’s sarcasm, seeing it get agreed with or at least not refuted, and now you have two people that believe this mess. Rinse and repeat. 4chan is basically a case study for this sort of thing.
Oh wow, that’s even worse than I had guessed. He looks…well exactly like himself, which is to say an over-grown child who thinks being hated for being a nazi is “being a rebel”.
My estranged uncle, who was a diehard trump supporter (I think he did it because he believed the system needed to be burned down, and he thought that somehow the dems were corrupt and that the republicans weren’t)
that same uncle, Moved to Texas because its where Elon went, he idolized Elon, (I should add at this point, my uncle is a fucking CANADIAN WITH A GREEN CARD. NOT A CITIZEN) that same uncle who when he was a teenager, Identified as a NATIONALIST SOCIALIST… He idolozed Elon. and then all of a sudden one day, he told the rest of the family that would still listen to him, that he’d 180’d and isn’t following Elon anymore, because Elon is “evil”
the mental gymnastics and thought process is literally giving me hyper brain aids.
When you caught me fisting your mom did you think I was acknowledging her with my thumb and the rest of my fingers or when I was elbow deep and shouted, “I’m fisting your mom!” in your face was it clear what was actually happening?
It’s really not clear that he isn’t just pointing at something/acknowledging someone with his thumb and the rest of his fingers violently
Ok, so imagine that you’re a billionaire and a really smart dude (as claimed by so many people on the internet). And you get into government and appear on TV and want to look good. You might hire a publicist, a PR team, some speechwriters, hell how about a body language consultant. When you go on TV you’re going to project exactly the image you intend to. Anything less would be careless and stupid, right?
So yeah. This was a Nazi salute. And if you really want to argue that it wasn’t, that Musk doesn’t even know what a Nazi is, you gotta also accept that he’s grossly incompetent and should not be in government at all. Throw him out, we didn’t vote for him.
Just throwing this in here, looks like he’s pointing at something?
And when he turned around and pointed violently at the flag in the same style? Does that make it more clear?
It wasn’t completely clear that my comment was pure sarcasm? Seriously?
That’s been the conservative line all day. Repeating a partisan lie word for word is not sarcasm.
Nobody conservative was defending this by saying he was pointing his thumb and the rest of his fingers violently at someone
I’ve found online that /s is almost always needed. May take a bit from the joke but also, clarifies for everyone that you are not actually being an asshole when you can’t visibly roll your eyes and use the proper “sarcasm inflection”
I’ve found that people who can’t detect obvious sarcasm are probably not worth the effort of explaining it
Tbh one of the things that makes detecting sarcasm vs actually just defending him hard is that normally you can use prior knowledge of a persons opinions to help, but here I have no clue who you are and what your positions are and you might just be a random Nazi.
If you really don’t like just having the /s there, one options is to include a spoiler and put the /s in there a few lines down.
Fair. I’ve spent most my life working with the neurodivergent community, so even IRL I know some very intelligent people need a bit of help with implied meaning. I know I’ve had my fair share of “woosh” moments
Likewise. I appreciate your service
Actually no. Maybe include /s or something?
Who “points their thumb” at someone “violently”? What reality is this
Assuming you’re operating in good faith, just take the feedback and try to learn from it.
Lol. This is a community about satire, right?
I mean, to be fair to you, I thought it was pretty clearly satire
It was abundantly clear to me. Cheers, buddy!
No
Youre talking to people whose country elected trump. Even the bright ones aren’t too bright.
Dude, he was asking sarcastically.
Spare me the sarcasm.
I mean, you’re not wrong.
if I may interject with a suggestion going forwards, I usually add one of these to a comment when I’m being a smartass
for the intellectually challenged
/s
then again you may find it funnier to omit that, I’m not your dad, do what you want.
I really do find it funnier to omit clues to idiots who read my comments
you really have to write a /s for a lot of these folks to not take everything at face value here it would appear :-/
Might be because people are actually making this argument in defense of musk
Eh, the richest and arguably most powerful man on the planet just did a Nazi salute, twice, on live TV. I think it’s understandable that some of our nerves are a bit frayed when it comes to sarcasm/jokes about the subject.
Subtle sarcasm is really hard for a lot of people who comment in a community focused on satire, ironically.
The internet is a different place than it used to be. These days every third person you see might tell you the California fires are caused by having too many black folks in the movies and be completely sure of themselves that this is a fact. It is no longer safe to assume sarcasm when you see someone say something ridiculous.
And if you just laugh and agree with it (sarcastically) or ignore it, then you’re going to get new people seeing this for the first time, not getting that it’s sarcasm, seeing it get agreed with or at least not refuted, and now you have two people that believe this mess. Rinse and repeat. 4chan is basically a case study for this sort of thing.
Very obviously, how are people taking this seriously?
Lmao sorry you’re getting downvoted dude. How anyone took this comment, in this community, seriously… is beyond me!
I’ll admit I got whoosed, but it’s not a crazy assumption when you’ve got the fucking ADL describing it as an ‘awkward gesture’
:D
https://streamable.com/29p7q1
He’s obviously grabbing his love from his heart and throwing it out to all of his supporters. I don’t know how else you could possibly interpret this.
Now that comment felt sarcastic enough to me to need the /s. I’m still betting someone will take it seriously.
Oh wow, that’s even worse than I had guessed. He looks…well exactly like himself, which is to say an over-grown child who thinks being hated for being a nazi is “being a rebel”.
Incredible.
What the fuck even is this timeline.
My estranged uncle, who was a diehard trump supporter (I think he did it because he believed the system needed to be burned down, and he thought that somehow the dems were corrupt and that the republicans weren’t)
that same uncle, Moved to Texas because its where Elon went, he idolized Elon, (I should add at this point, my uncle is a fucking CANADIAN WITH A GREEN CARD. NOT A CITIZEN) that same uncle who when he was a teenager, Identified as a NATIONALIST SOCIALIST… He idolozed Elon. and then all of a sudden one day, he told the rest of the family that would still listen to him, that he’d 180’d and isn’t following Elon anymore, because Elon is “evil”
the mental gymnastics and thought process is literally giving me hyper brain aids.
and this is my own flesh and blood.
…at least his brain could catch onto some of the more recent stuff? Man it’s amazing what people need in order to see blatantly obvious shit.
he just wanted to touch his heart and then salute the sun?
Not the sun, idiot. Mars. He was saluting Mars.
When you caught me fisting your mom did you think I was acknowledging her with my thumb and the rest of my fingers or when I was elbow deep and shouted, “I’m fisting your mom!” in your face was it clear what was actually happening?
Weird.
You shouldn’t have tried that
She loved it
Aw honey, doubling down was not the move.