BREAKING - Tiktok has now SHUT DOWN SERVICES in the United States, noting “A law banning Tiktok has been enacted in the U.S. Unfortunately, that means you can’t use TikTok for now. We are fortunate that President Trump has indicated that he will work with us on a solution to reinstate Tiktok once he takes office. Please stay tuned!”
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This just seems like weird censorship/control to me. Unless they can come forward with hard evidence that TikTok is working for the Chinese government.
I just think of all of the actual hateful and concerning websites out there that stay up and nobody blinks an eye.
I’ve never used TikTok and I don’t really like what I’ve seen from it, but a ban seems unnecessary
People are so happy for other’s first amendment right to get stepped on.
there seems to be a pretty strong sentiment that TikTok users are all idiots (especially compared to us incredibly smart, sophisticated, and attractive Fediverse users) and therefore they deserve whatever happens to them.
it reminds me of the predictable response every time Florida gets hit by a hurricane, or Texas by a snowstorm, or whatever, and a bunch of liberals come out of the woodwork with the same tired old “they live in a red state, fuck em, I don’t care what happens to them”.
LMFAO. Every single thing about this is hilarious.
As predicted, here comes the Trumper Youth.
Watch him insist on it being run by Truth Social, and be filled with noisy cunt videos of immigrants being hilariously deported at gunpoint.
Please don’t say breaking.
As an European, I sincerely envy you. Death to these crappy social networks.
Banning isn’t the solution. Thankfully this means less yanks on tiktok now.
It isn’t right but it’s a solution. I will have to do for now
Social media peaked in 2012/2013, before just before recommendation algorithms became a thing. Everything became insufferable afterwards.
Lemmy is nice though
That’s kind of my feeling too, although it’s dangerously close to “better back in my day” given my age.
The period after they shut down browser popups, but before they invented those virtual DOM-hacking popups was great, and that’s a measurable change.
TBH, I found FB insufferable already in 2008, when I deleted my back-then 1 y/o account.
Agree, I felt the bad effects of FB around then. It was just so pointless.
It’s not that they do that because they dislike social networks though
The reason behind is not important. The effect is a net positive.
I just don’t see how this move and the timing was not orchestrated to manipulate uninformed TikTok users into supporting Trump. The explicit callout to Trump in the message… I have been fearing the next presidency and this was a blow.
Glazing Donald’s ego is a last ditch effort to save their platform. This is entirely on the Democrats—they didn’t have to agree to the ban, they could have insisted on higher standards for transparency and data security for social media instead. But banning the platform that featured pro-palestinian sentiment was more important to them. Now all that’s left is billionaire owned pro-Trump social media which Tik Tok may or may not join in the future. Good job guys!
I don’t know if it’s that ByteDance wants to push people into supporting Trump, but it could be that Trump agreed to “save” it if they appeared to kiss his ass.
On one hand, yeah, on the other hand Biden literally signed the law banning it. If Democrats didn’t want Tik Tok being banned to be associated with them and to give Republicans an easy, obvious win by unbanning a wildly popular app, then they could have just… not done that. This was just completely an unforced error on the part of the Democrats.
As is traditional, the Republicans drafted a law, got bipartisan support to push it through congress, and then after it passed publicly flip flopped their support for the law they just wrote when they realized they could score political points by complaining about it while the Democrats would hold to their agreed support.
This way the Republicans get the law they want, get to claim any benefits of said law by pointing to their voting record, and get to blame anything people don’t like about it on Democrats, all at the same time.
Meanwhile there are no consequences to their bad faith actions because the Democrats will just bend over and take it in the name of bipartisanship and working across the aisle because half of them are Republicans, they just don’t want to call themselves Republicans and leadership is willing to fight tooth and nail to protect said members.
I’ll get a bit conspiratorial here, but if what Bernie has said is to be trusted in his video about oligarchy, up on his youtube channel, then Democrats are largely owned/influenced by billionaires who would benefit from the increased Trump support. It would make sense to do this, but yeah it could also just be a blunder, given how Trump was the first one to propose the ban and Democrats could take it as “hey if we do this, we’ll win the moderate right support again!!”, though who knows.
It’s important to remember that politicians are still people, too. Some of them might just not have realized what would happen, some of them might just be corrupt, some of them might have known this was a bad idea but played along anyway to try and get support for things they thought were more important. There isn’t actually a single motivator for all of the Democratic Party. That’s just not how people work.
Or instead of targeting tiktok specifically, they could have chosen to pass a data privacy law and actually did something worthwhile instead of pointless, unpopular grandstanding. Haha just kidding, they would never do anything to reduce even slightly shareholder value.
Apparently the law is written so that it would also be applicable to other apps like RedNote, if a president were interested in applying it.
As long as it’s completely legal for American companies to sell the data that’s allegedly so sensitive to anyone they please, the law does nothing except allow the president to target apps selectively. If it’s the propagandizing via the algorithm that’s such a huge concern, that’s still completely legal too.
Democrats shutting down TikTok over a do nothing bill is probably the stupidest shit they could have done with Biden’s last year in office.
It’s never been about data privacy. Never.
It’s always been about control. Always?
Snape: “Always.”
Accurate perspective but another one is this was a very successful social engineering of US politics by its global adversaries.
Dems have been been trying to pull back the moment they released they got played but its to late. Above messaging is additional salt in the wound.
How did they “[get] played”? Like the poster you replied too said, it was a completely unforced error on their part. It feels like they tried to jump on the right-wing “China bad” bandwagon and it bit them in the arse.
Its pure speculation but i suspect china may have purposely pushed for the tiktok is spyware narrative and fueled the china bad bandwagon themselves.
They made it a real privacy nightmare but also by made sure western leaders know it is a privacy nightmare.
Something i noted is that European parlement and many individual European govs have in recent years put up laws banning tiktok for gov officials and all staff but not the general public/citizens.
Its pure speculation but
you know you can just…stop typing after that, right?
i suspect china may have purposely pushed for the tiktok is spyware narrative and fueled the china bad bandwagon themselves.
you’re making the same racist assumption that underlies the TikTok ban itself - that Chinese people are inherently nefarious, untrustworthy, always hatching schemes and plots and subterfuge.
the US does not need to be “tricked” into passing laws that are rooted in anti-Chinese bigotry. it’s basically a national pastime.
Lol, This implies that Chinese citizens somehow have a say in what their government elite desires. I don’t think they are much different then anyone else.
If it makes you feel better the US puts just as much energy into manipulating other countries as other countries do into them. And may i remind you of the chat control Europe routinely tries to sneak in a ban encryption for all its citizens without them noticing. my original comment addressed “global adversaries”, i only mentioned china replying to a comment specify about china. So not racist, I am anti any centralized power structure because power always corrupts.
The fact is that governments have always (amongst other things) been rooted in a centralized resource and population control. The big problem as i would call it is that the emergent complexity of global politics makes the dynamics so complex not a single person, not even a president is capable of knowing more then the micro-environment they exist within. This is precisely why states feel a need to create extensive bureaucracies and specialized agencies which historically have a tendency to evolve into centralized powered structures themselves and power always corrupts.
No nations, No borders, No gods, No masters
Honestly this just sounds like more conspiracy theory than fact. Remember Occam’s Razor, the simplest solution is usually correct.
Like don’t get me wrong, TikTok is absolutely an extension of soft power, and it’s likely that the Chinese government has access to the huge amount of data the platform collects. But I think anything beyond that is just not likely.
Anddddd the Dems just lost more of the youth vote.
GJ guys.
People forget shit so fast, it doesn’t even matter. All that matters is the present + six months for most Americans.
Shit, I think many 14-16 yo Americans don’t even know who Obama’s VP was, or would have to think for a second a least, haha.
Clowns will find some other teet
Hello, RedNote.
Or Loops. You know, being open source, privacy respecting and all that.
Nah, just kidding. Who wants any of that when you have the little red book instead.
Rights are soooo gen X.
I like Loops too! I’ve ditched everything except Loops and RedNote for social media.
Or maybe people don’t want to join an app with no app (other than a TestFlight version, as far as I can see) and no user base? Maybe?
Loops privacy policy is shit btw.
Better that than TT or RedNote though.
I just read it on their website and it looks pretty standard. What’s so shite about it?
Sorry, my bad. The privacy is pretty standard, it’s the terms that are shady. Specifically §7
- CONTRIBUTION LICENSE
By posting your Contributions to any part of the Services or making Contributions accessible to the Services by linking your account from the Services to any of your social networking accounts, you automatically grant, and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant, to us an unrestricted, unlimited, irrevocable, perpetual, non-exclusive, transferable, royalty-free, fully-paid, worldwide right, and license to host, use, copy, reproduce, disclose, sell, resell, publish, broadcast, retitle, archive, store, cache, publicly perform, publicly display, reformat, translate, transmit, excerpt (in whole or in part), and distribute such Contributions (including, without limitation, your image and voice) for any purpose, commercial, advertising, or otherwise, and to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, such Contributions, and grant and authorize sublicenses of the foregoing. The use and distribution may occur in any media formats and through any media channels.
This license will apply to any form, media, or technology now known or hereafter developed, and includes our use of your name, company name, and franchise name, as applicable, and any of the trademarks, service marks, trade names, logos, and personal and commercial images you provide. You waive all moral rights in your Contributions, and you warrant that moral rights have not otherwise been asserted in your Contributions.
Thanks! Yeah, I saw this and thought it’s a bit disingenuous to push Loops as a “privacy” forward option when it’s all the same as any other social media TOS.
https://mastodon.social/@dansup/113848396412970536
also @lunarloony@lemmy.sdf.org so that I don’t have to spam the thread with replies
Someone broke it down here: https://bajsicki.com/blog/loops-video-terms/
Or just touch grass
It’s always a bit ironic when people post this on the internet.
It’s not wrong, per se, but much more specific instructions on how not to waste your life would be nice. There’s old people that have spent their whole life on the metaphorical grass and are still dumb as shit.
Why not both? The grass isn’t that wonderful everywhere.
Because brain rot is brain rot for a reason
It’s only brain rot if it’s all you do all day long. Everything in moderation. It’s also often times the only window into other cultures for people that don’t have the money to travel. I’d rather scroll through stuff that teaches me something, than I would the endless US oligarchy brain rot feeds.
I downloaded that and it wanted my mobile number, so I uninstalled it.
People are weird.
I think it only uses it for initial verification. I already get a ton of spam on my number so it doesn’t really bother me. Highly recommend checking some of the content out though if you want an unfettered view into everyday life in China. It’s been a fun adventure.
