• Deestan@lemmy.world
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    “Well, I also was good at finding faults in anyone who were trying to improve some things and attack them for not improving all things.”

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      Absolutely hate the people who would sell out my child’s future over some holy war in the desert held by idiots—I mean religious zealots—terrorizing each other. They’re both wrong, don’t sell us out over it.

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        It’s comments like these that make non-americans like me pray for the fall of the American Empire. Seriously, you people don’t even see the people you murder overseas as human.

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          that make non-americans like me pray for the fall of the American Empire.

          I’m praying with you. But prayer will only get us so far.

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          I don’t murder anyone. I don’t support either side of that conflict. I don’t like religious people very much. I’d cut support for Israel with the snap of my fingers if I could.

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            You look at a genocide being committed by your government that you support and say “I hate people who would oppose it”

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                  When you think about it, this is really the fault of the Iranians for not submitting quietly to the Shah in 1979.

                  Everything after that was completely outside anyone’s control.

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                    This is too subtle for most of your audience. You really gotta crank it up to Verhoeven to be understood, and even then…

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              Because they’re fine with us living in an authoritarian state (that is even less friendly to Palestine, btw) for the sake of it.

              You had a better chance of stopping or slowing it if you didn’t let the other side take over our entire government, now Israel has a full pass. Your strategy backfired and made America worse for it.

              Sometimes you have to know how to pick and choose your battles. Just like Oct 7 was a cowardly and incredibly stupid move of you truly wanted to end the apartheid state. Murdering people at a music festival was stupid. Maybe if you had fought the IDF in an actual war declared for independence you would’ve have a shit ton more support globally

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                See what I mean? You American’s are absurdly selfish; you’re fine committing genocide so long as you don’t have to live in an “authoritarian state” (I would argue that a state that is committing genocide regardless of how the people vote is already authoritarian, but as I said, you don’t consider foreigners humans)

                Naturally a genocidal American like you thinks Palestinians should never fight back and just meekly be destroyed. You also disprove your own point by demonstrating that no matter what they do, you’ll always believe the propaganda from Israel: like how you think October 7th was just “Murdering people at a music festival”, when it involved attacking multiple military bases and killed hundreds of IDF soldiers (ending up with a far better civilian to soldier ratio than Israel ever does.)

                In general, American’s have made it clear that they will never stop killing us by the thousands, and that the only thing that will end it is the collapse of your empire, so in that regard, I welcome anything that destabilizes the USA, and I’m certainly not going to feel sympathy for genocidal Americans getting a taste of what they do to us.

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                You had a better chance of stopping or slowing it if you didn’t let the other side take over our entire government

                Too many Lemmyites didn’t vote hard enough. That’s why every single state in the country trended Republican in 2024. You fucking idiots on a 4th rate social media site ruined things for everyone.

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        not each other. western countries esp the us are the ones provoking and arming them for decades. not just in the middle east either.

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        Idk, that seems like a pretty shit take to me. It’s not the voting choice I made, but I can see where people are coming from. It’s not just the US selling arms to hostile occupiers, it’s running around with the Cheney’s and the general abandonment of the working and middle class.