• ☭ Blursty ☭@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    Putin and the Kremlin then twisted

    Does it not give you pause when you hear yourself say weird shit like this? You think Vladimir Putin himself is involved in creating propaganda? The Kremlin is a tourist museum. Listen to yourself, you’re just a parrot repeating gibberish that you don’t understand.

    The rest of your comment is just a poor effort to ignore the website I linked you to.

    “Putin and the Kremlin then twisted”… jfc

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      1 year ago

      You think Vladimir Putin himself is involved in creating propaganda?

      When Putin gives a speech that spreads misinformation about what Zelensky says then yes, he’s very much part of spreading propaganda and misinformation.

      The Kremlin is a tourist museum.

      You do realize I’m not speaking literally? I’m using the common metonymy for the Russian Government, just like The Pentagon for the US armed forces, The White House for the US presidency, #10 Downing Street for the UK Prime Minister, Beijing for China’s government, and so on. But more literally, the Grand Kremlin Palace is the residence of the Russian president.

      • ☭ Blursty ☭@lemmygrad.ml
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        1 year ago

        >When Putin gives a speech that spreads misinformation about what Zelensky says then yes,

        For the third time now, what Zelensky said was real. I provided you with evidence for this and you’ve ignored it, again.

        >You do realize I’m not speaking literally?

        I realise you’re mindlessly repeating cheesy propaganda tropes. All of these other places you listed actually contain functioning state decision making apparatus.

        Zelensky threatened Russia with nukes. Now you know this for a fact.

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          What Zelensky said in Ukrainian about preemptive strikes was real. How an English speaker is hearing the translation is not.

          > I realise you’re mindlessly repeating cheesy propaganda tropes.

          Do you actually know what you’re talking about, or are you just insulting me on principle? There are various kremlins, most of which are museums but one of which is the working office of the president. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Kremlin_Palace

          > Zelensky threatened Russia with nukes. Now you know this for a fact.

          Please, do tell how Zelensky threatened Russia with nukes during a speech that mentions a desire for NATO membership (which Ukraine has not been shy about) but never expresses a desire for nuclear weapons.

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            1 year ago

            So you’re going to continue to pretend you missed the link I provided you with, for a fourth time now and instead focus on an iffy refutation of an irrelevant translation?

            You’re not fooling anyone with this.

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              1 year ago

              Tell me, where in the actual quote did he say he wanted Ukraine to have nuclear weapons?