My reasoning is that the period is a “stronger” punctuation mark than the comma, and it should be used for the more important separation.
I don’t care which decimal separator you use, but please use a space for the thousands separator!
Why do so many cultures accept using colons to separate divisions of time (posted around 08:30:45 local time) but none of them use it for separation of general numbers? (It is sometimes used for division or ratios, i.e. 10:1 for 10 to 1 odds.) Seems like we could use units (like with measurements) or prefix units (like with currency) to indicate different uses for numbers, and maybe ratios just use double colons?
Designing programming languages, you will spend way too much time obsessing over things like this. Some languages use underscores as a grouping separator. What about bases? Exponential notation?
If you’re going to use commas, just use the Oxford Comma.
110,042,500, and 38
One of those jokes that you laugh really hard at and somebody asks you “what’s so funny” and you just feel ashamed at having to explain it in a way that’s verbally funny.
In a sentence, the comma denotes a continuation of that sentence, whereas the period means full stop. Why should it be different for numbers?
A comma means you are continuing on the whole part of the number, whereas the period means the whole part is over, now on to the fractional aspect.
I mean, wouldn’t that lead you to spaces and commas being the actual choice
after all, both space and commas continue sentences in different ways, but a full stop ends a sentence, so why would you use it in this context to actually continue the same number
Because without a visible delineator readability rapidly declines. Using space means the reader has to interpret each page with regards to its kerning
:this:
> come back to hexbear while taking a Christmas break
> People are once again arguing that Fahrenheit is “objectively” better for laypeople.
Thank you, feels like I’ve never been gone
My favorite way to do it is this one:
10’000,00
Based
10 000 000.0f32gang rise upI use celsius in everyday interactions with Americans and it’s fun to watch their face wrinkle up
temperature is so easy to convert check it out:
10 C = 50 F
20 C = 68 F
30 C = 86 F
40 C = 104 Fthey’re all 18 degrees F apart since a C is 9/5 of an F
i just double it and add 30 since its easy to do and close enough for most room temperatures
i think someone here posted this, or maybe it was on lemmy, but here’s how I remember the range of temperatures in C
0 is freezing
10 is not
20 is warm
30 is hot40 is what? We had multiple over 40 days this week :(
really hot lol
Dreading next week. I’m pretty sure we can cook eggs on the barbecues left in the sun
burgerland has a superior formatting system for once
superior formatting system or are you just used to it and have subjective biases
it’s a superior formatting system ma’am
the period is “stronger”
eh, i’m sure periods suck but a coma’s surely worse
Yeah, I’d rather have a period than a coma.
I prefer eras
I don’t know, the period might feel stronger to you because you have already accepted this meaning for text. For others, the comma feels “stronger” in the context of numbers. Partly because they are used to it, but it makes some sense too, because it is larger and has a defined direction. A period is just a little dot and, when written by hand, could easily be mistaken for a random smudge and vice versa an accidental contact of pen to paper could more easily be mistaken for a dot than for a comma.
You’re right; it’s because of the established meaning. If I were creating a writing system from scratch in a contextless vacuum I’d switch them.
I don’t care. Just unify it. If you work with data and databases in an international company it constantly fucks you over. Excel still falls apart when mixing seperators from different sources. It’s so utterly dumb that we can’t agree on how to write down numbers.
I prefer 1e4
IEEE 754
No it isn’t
So you’re saying there are more examples?
There are no examples. More and more people are saying it.
The dot decimal separator is fine, but the comma should be left as a list separator. As in 3, 4, 10 000.0, 23, etc. So IMO none of them get it right. :)
Why not just use a semicolon or colon? You’ll certainly have fewer collisions than with a heavily used symbol.
The CSV understander has entered the chat
If you write a check for 1.00, it’s easier to turn it into 1,000.00 than 1,00 is to 1.000,00
Edit: when you write the tip on a check at a restaurant, it is just one field for the numbers, no words.
A check? Hey grandparent, ever heard of the 21. Century?
You just wrinkled my brain.
That’s one of the reasons why they make you write it in words I suppose. Ideally, we shouldn’t base our writing system on an outdated payment method.
Numbers existed before checks. Was the formatting system changed when handwritten checks were invented?
The critique is valid for all written documents using the format, not just checks.
Checks are not the only numbered document throughout all of history where tampering of said document would be undesirable.
I suppose so.
Either way it can easily be turned into 1,001.00 or 1.001,00. That’s why there’s a written out form of the number.
