• TheAlbatross@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    22 days ago

    I’ve been seeing Christmas shit in stores since before Halloween I don’t wanna hear any shit this year about the war on Christmas.

    If there’s a war on Christmas, it’s fucking winning.

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        22 days ago

        Indeed. The “Christmas” we know is not the same kind of Christmas that empowered the Christmas Truce of 1914. A shared celebration of common humanity and good will and forgiveness and love. Gifts exchanged from the heart, not out of commercial obligation.

        We must remember everything. EVERYTHING is co-opted and meddled and sold back to you mangled for a profit. It’s the same reason people associate Memorial Day, a day of rememberance for fallen warriors, with friggin mattresses and truck sales.

        Labor Day? Man that one’s also been blunted. (Gee I wonder why). Forget all the sacrifices of union workers and labor organization who were brutally assaulted by their bosses to win things like universal safety standards and days off and overtime…BUY A TRUCK, RIGHT?!

        So here we have it. Masses trampling each other after “Thanksgiving”, which is more about football and gluttony than sharing and companionship. Christmas as a prime directive to consume instead of celebrate the breaths we have left with people we love.

        Speaking of the Christmas Truce: The Christmas spirit could stop one of the most brutal conflicts in history if only for a moment…

        …but now it’s not enough to stop the working class from being coerced into work away from their families because the profits must flow eternal.

        Christmas was for everyone, because Christ is for everyone. These megachurch-flocking, immigrant spiting, flag-worshipping, suburban-nitpicking types don’t even know what a Christian is.

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          Holy shit Labor Day. A day the people who get paid the least labor extra hard because people who make decent money are off and spending. I had my first Labor Day ever off this year, and it’s because the day it fell on made the people at the corporation we contract for get a long weekend, so there was no work.

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      22 days ago

      Ironically, I think the war on Christmas is the one co-opting Christmas.

      The moneyed are winning. The city-sized trash piles are winning.

      If Christmas was taken back from Wall Street, we’d be singing and bringing food to our neighbors and making peace with our rivals. Quarterly earnings would be gleefully, beautifully, “disappointing.”

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      22 days ago

      If there’s a war on Christmas, it’s Christmas is fucking winning.

      FTFY

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          22 days ago

          Gramatically correct but I was definitely confused at first as to what the “it” referred to (the “war on Christmas” or Christmas itself)

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    22 days ago

    Not a Christian, but I celebrate Christmas. I always say merry Christmas. The way I see it is my saying “merry Christmas” is wishing someone good tidings during my holiday. If they get offended by me saying something intended as kind, then fuck them.

    If someone says “Happy Holidays” to me then maybe they don’t celebrate Christmas…and that’s just fine! I still recognize it as them being kind.

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      That’s how I see it. I’m a Christian, and people have blessed me in their own cultural traditions before, and I really appreciate it. I think it’s incredibly sweet even if we may not agree on all the specifics.

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      22 days ago

      It’s like saying “bless you” when someone sneezes

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    22 days ago

    The largest most powerful religion on planet Earth is being persecuted 😂

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    22 days ago

    Meanwhile modern day xmas has very little to nothing to do with anything Christian. I’m sure there were a lot of Nordmann fir trees in Jerusalem.

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    The closest I get is the Winter Solstice, because I’d rather celebrate the planet’s cycle around the Sun, you know, a fact of nature.

    I don’t subscribe to blatant consumerism in the guise of “holiday spirit”. You know, when the retailers go from the red into the black (loss to profit), and the consumers from the black into the red. Then you hope your tax returns fill the gap so you can survive. Positive feedback loop. I’m calling shenanigans.

    And the depressive-nostalgic music. The decorations. The hypocritical “cheer” people spread that they can’t be bothered with the rest of the year, like they needed a reason to be nice. What in the Disney Channel fuck. It’s like saying you can only tell someone you love them on Valentine’s Day. Y’all motherfuckers are crazy.

    Okay, rant over. Feel free to downvote, I’ll gladly eat it. Happy Fucking Holidays!

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      I think all those things used to be legitimate before the marketing departments seized it and took it over. Seriously! I mentioned elsewhere the Christmas Truce of 1914. SOMEWHERE that spirit of good will was there. (Before “goodwill” was yet another retailer brand.)

      You’re right to call shenanigans. If we weren’t so lured by shiny baubles, everyone besides food and ERs would be closing up shop for like a week every year because nobody bought anything.

      There are marked occasions where we are encouraged to hit the brakes, hug our people, remember what’s important. It’s all drowned out by “SALE SALE SALE SALE”.

      I think those songs and everything are so depressive because we KNOW it’s fake. It’s all plastic. It’s all illusion. It’s a forced song and dance trying to weaponize our nostalgia and our hearts and sentiment for profit (What in the Disney Channel indeed). And we see the disgusting, vapid gestures for what they are.

      I sincerely hope you do have a happy holiday. Buying nothing, hugging your cat, fixing something for a neighbor, helping the unhoused, calling your folks, whatever.

      Rebellion begins with us.

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      22 days ago

      Some people prefer saying “happy holidays” as “Christmas” has religious meanings and people somehow got it in their minds that the woke left is trying to censor their Christmas.
      Or atleast that’s the idea. I’ve never met anyone who’s offended by “merry Christmas” and I’ve never met anyone who’s offended by “happy holidays”. But that’s just my experience. Maybe it’s different where other religions are more common, where I live is really Christian.

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        People really do get offended by happy holidays. They’re brainwashed to think their religion is under attack, even though Christmas has fuck all to do with Christianity. If Jesus existed he certainly wasn’t born in late December. We know this because the passages from their book mention people bringing in the harvest at the time.

        I’m an atheist and I say Merry Christmas because it makes people happy.