Summary

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau opposed any deal letting Russia keep Ukrainian land, saying it would encourage other countries to break international rules.

Speaking to a NATO meeting, he highlighted Canada’s $19.5 billion aid to Ukraine and stressed the need to defend global stability.

Trudeau defended his plan to raise military spending to 2% of GDP by 2032 after criticism of Canada’s low defense funding.

He warned against isolating Ukraine, saying continued support is crucial to stop further global conflicts.

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    If Russia is permitted to annex any part of Ukraine it send the message that they can attack any country and eventually take over parts of it.

    If the world does stop Russia from taking Ukraine, Russia isn’t going to stop once they’ve taken Ukraine.

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    Trudeau is spot on and Canada should ask the Blue States if they would like to be annexed.

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    20 billion

    Man, I’m jealous.

    His country has universal health care and isn’t wasting trillions a year policing the world like we are.

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      Our healthcare system has been deteriorating over the last 5-8 years now though with many healthcare professionals leaving the force for higher paying US opportunities. It’s lead to an annoying experience out here for anyone younger than 40 seeking healthcare.

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    As an American, I’m confused that Canada has less than 2% GDP for military spending. Do you guys just spend all that money back on yourselves? Fucking nice.

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      I’m assuming it’s because they really only have a single neighboring country, the US. Despite the Fallout games, I doubt that the US invasion/annexation of Canada is even seen as a remote possibility, or something that they could really ever meaningfully oppose were the US to even try it. There’s just no need to maintain a ridiculously large military when you’re neighbors with the country that has the largest military spending on Earth anyways, may as well just spend your money on your people.

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      Yeah honestly as a Canadian with 2 kids and another on the way. It’s pretty awesome. We get in the neighborhood of $1500 a month for our two kids already and once the next one is born we will be getting north of $2200 a month from our government. It covers a lot of bills and makes the life we have possible. We live small but we make our money go a looong way and prioritize time with our kids over extra cash flow. My wife works part time and right now I’m able to be a full time stay at home dad until my wife takes another maternity leave then I’ll go back to work part or fulltime.

      Edit: Also our healthcare is fully covered. It’s such a relief. My wife had one potential issue with her last pregnancy and our healthcare system went above and beyond to make sure everything was fine. They immediately sent her to a more capable facility by helicopter and had specialists waiting and everything. And it was all free. They take children’s health very seriously and spend any money necessary.

      Some people hate our healthcare system and I get it, it has its flaws. But when shit hits the fan and you are in need. They rush to your safety it’s actually crazy. My wife and child ended up being absolutely fine but they didn’t even take the chance.

      One time my youngest had a really bad virus and was at home. He took a turn for the worse and started having low level breathing and his skin changed colour. We rushed to the hospital since it’s literally 2 mins from our house. The second someone at the front entrance saw his little face it was like go time. They cleared the hallways immediately and like 5 doctors and nurses took him from us and rushed him into the Emerg. They spend a lot of time training for moments like that and when someone is really in need of help they are there and they work like a well oiled machine to save lives.

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        Canada’s health care sounds like what Finland’s health care is supposed to be.

        Instead our government is busy running it to the ground at terminal velocity.

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    Raise the military spend now. Stop kicking the can. We’ve helped, sure, but we need to do more.

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      Agree 100% we can’t rely on our rich bi-polar brother in the methlab of a house next door to protect us anymore.

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        7 小时前

        You need protection from greedy politicians and the military industry sucking in public money and fueling wars.

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        Canada’s expenditure as a % of gdp according to your own source is pretty weak already. Insisting on having no military spending is hardly a real argument. Also, Canada has a very real stake in ensuring russia doesn’t succeed given those coveted waters you guys have along the northern territories.

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        Only works if your adversaries also cut military spending. Unfortunately countries like Russia have shown that they’ll happily attack those unable to defend themselves. This also means that increased military spending can cause less war if it deters those who would otherwise attack.

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          Only works if your adversaries also cut military spending.

          Usa and nato spend 10 times more than what russia does. Open the link and do the math yourself. They have no good excuse to raise the military budget even according to your logic.

          Unfortunately countries like Russia have shown that they’ll happily attack those unable to defend themselves.

          Go check the history of your country, every authoritarian nation will try to do that. Raising military spending does not make people more secure, it only increase rulers and government power. Wars are fought by people not money.

          This also means that increased military spending can cause less war if it deters those who would otherwise attack.

          Spending more on war will get you more war. You can see it happening right now in ukraine and middle east.

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            There is only a war in Ukraine because Pootin illegally invaded it.

            War could stop tomorrow if he pulled forces back to Russias border.

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    I agree. I hope Ukrainians abroad step up and go back to defend their country. Working in the technology industry I know there are many Ukrainian men who have left and hold jobs at technology companies. It’s time to go back and fight.

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      I’m not sure that the best way for a software developer to support the war effort is by carrying a gun.

      Hopefully if they support the defense of Ukraine, they find a way to support the Defence of Ukraine. I’m hesitant to prescribe the best way to do that.

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        Someone posted an image of a squad of Ukrainian soldiers overlayed with their pre-war civilian jobs. They were all in tech, software engineers, data science, etc, etc.

        If they have some special skills creating missile or drone software, or in cyber warfare — sure they can fight that way. But, it sounds like the front line needs reinforcements badly and these guys ought to at least step up for their country instead of hiding out abroad.

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          Has someone done a Russian version of the overlay?

          Vlad: released convict Dmitri: bootlegger Yevgeny: herion addict

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        There are certainly tech focused positions in any modern military, but yeah, the front lines are probably not the best place for a software developer with probably no military training.