• floofloof@lemmy.ca
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    They’re going to really show Trump how unfair he is being, appeal to his better nature, and make him feel bad so he changes his ways. They may even point out how he’s not following the rules as they’re normally interpreted. For sure it will work this time. There’s no way he can survive this.

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      lol yeah what the hell is that headline? Some democrats are already turning against the trans community 🙄

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        Please explain this to me, I keep seeing comments like this but haven’t seen any related article etc.

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          2-3 democrats shortly after the election made public comments and/or internet posts that were either anti or dismissive of trans people. Couldn’t tell you the names at this point but I googled the phrase “democrats turn on trans” and got enough hits to read more about it

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    There’s some things to be hopeful about. Trump cannot run again, so the republican party has no choice but to be thinking about what’s next. Additionally, aside from the slim majority in the house, mid-term elections are only two years away. That means the Republicans need to thread a needle here by sufficiently pacifying the MAGA diehards and Trump, but not so much that they have complete reign over the direction of the economy.

    Many in the republican party have become full-on cultists. But many of them also just play-act because it’s where the power is right now. And many of them aren’t in the cult, but they simply ignore it because it benefits the party. If the Magats are given no leash, their policies will almost inevitably turn the electorate against them. So many of Trump’s proposals are good “tough guy” vengeance talking points that speak to aggrieved white people, but the election was closer than they are pretending.

    If Trump goes on a full vengeance tour and his Project 2025 crew enacts their policies, the consequences of all that rhetoric will be devastating to poor white people. I know we like to think it happened during his first term and they didn’t care, but it’s not true. He was a fairly ineffective president. But now that he’s got people around him that want to actually act not talk, there’s a huge downside risk that they’ll start losing power during the mid-term elections. If that happens, the last two years for Trump will be miserable as everyone jumps ship from the senile guy in his mid-80s that can’t run again and is bleeding out the republican party of support.

    Political pragmatics will force the republican party to turn on him. He’s simply unable to wield much influence after his last term. He will be too old and have no political future. And that will be recognized and cause some political realignment far before his presidency comes to an end.

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      Trump can’t legally run again based on our current legal framework. I think that’s somewhat important to clarify.

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        Yes, I know fretful democrats have created in Trump such a fearsome boogeyman that they seem confident he’s either going to upload his consciousness into a computer mainframe or assume his final lich-form and rule a totalitarian America for the next thousand years, but here in the real world that’s not actually a possibility. It does make for good fear-mongering among the mopey left however.

        His mental decline over the last two years is sufficient to assure that even in the incredibly unlikely case we remove presidential term limits, which requires an amendment to the constitution requiring 2/3rds majorities in both the house and senate and ratification by 3/4ths of state legislatures, he will be in no physical or mental condition to do so. I’m doubtful he’ll even be able to actually complete his full term.

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          It can happen here. Thinking it can’t is how it does. Hitler’s rise to power wasn’t totally legal either, and people thought it was impossible… and yet it happened.

          This isn’t to say it will happen, but it can happen. He doesn’t need an amendment. That’s only required if you pretend like rules and norms are the only way things get done. They’re only as useful as the people willing to stand against him when he breaks them are. If people aren’t ready to stop him then there’s no limits.

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            Hitler was literally like 30 years younger. You are so scared that you’ve somehow convinced yourself Trump is immortal.

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              And you’re so sure that you’re safe, just because you know you were born in the right place at the right time that can never fall.

              Even if it isn’t Trump in the position, their plan is to take over. Yeah, Trump is old. It wouldn’t be the first time an old man has grasped for power and succeeded. You would do well to learn from history and recognize that nothing is permanent, lest you learn to regret not knowing so.

              I do not suspect Trump successfully destroys our democracy, but I’m also not so certain in that as to not caution others to make preparations in case they’re necessary. Hopefully they’re not, but it can only hurt to not be ready.

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                  And the best argument you have for lying down is an emoji. That truly shows how weak your position is. Stop pretending like we live in a fairytale that can never end. Live in ignorance, but do not tell others to join you. It can and will end. It’s just a matter of when and by who. I hope now isn’t the time, but everyone should always be prepared in case it is.

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          The unfortunate reality is that anything is possible, Republicans are not meek milquetoast removed like Democrats are

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              meek /mēk/ adjective

              Showing patience and humility; gentle. Easily imposed on; submissive. Mild of temper; not easily provoked or orritated; patient under injuries; not vain, or haughty, or resentful; forbearing; submissive.

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          If they can undermine democracy thoroughly enough and have an ailing Trump hand over power to Vance, and never run another free election, it could still become an autocracy. It doesn’t have to be Trump forever for it to be MAGA fascism forever.

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      Why can’t Trump run for a Third Term? Because the Constitution says so? Psh! When have Republicans cared about the Constitution (except when Defending people who Murder a Bunch of Children in a School!)?

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        It’s theoretically possible but extremely unlikely for a number of reasons. There’s a difference between bending constitutional intent by flouting democratic norms on the one hand, and outright ignoring what most people consider to be an explicit and core constitutional principle on the other. And, again, I’m not someone that believes Trump is ultimately heading for a lich-king transformation, so basic biology makes it even more unlikely.

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    With what leverage? They could take Lemmy’s advice and get deep into beans so that they are gassy all the time, but beyond farting and stinking the place up, the cake is baked.