the party is hopelesslty corrupted and wont even acknowledge why they lost. Its time to dump the dems and build up a progressive party.
Start by investigating musks money for votes scheme
We’ve had several elections in recent memory where it’s been really clear that progressive Democrats win elections compared to centrists (mostly midterm elections but still). Somehow that lesson hasn’t stuck, and I wouldn’t be surprised if Harris’ defeat also doesn’t teach this lesson. At this point the old guard really just needs to die.
People want change, GOP is offering it and people are eating it up. They just have no idea how incredibly stupid that version of change is.
Monied interests wield their donor privilege to ensure these lessons are never learned nor discussed in media. This influence is so powerful, Harris campaign wasn’t even allowed to lie and pretend to be populist like Trump had been doing, in order to attempt to win the election. The donors must be appeased above all else.
Personally, I think the Democrats are doomed to ratchet further into the grip of conservatism in perpetuity. But if you really want to reform the Dems instead, it has to start with significant campaign finance reform to end the legalized bribery.
Reconstruct?
Raize it with impunity and forge something actually good
The Party for Socialism and Liberation is attempting to do just that.
I applied a while back to no response. Although the nearest chapter is 2 hours away to be fair. They do great work though from what I hear.
If it was during COVID, I have been informed by current members that they had a bunch of issues and have since rectified the application process. If you are still interested, I have been told the best thing is to re-apply, if you don’t get a response this time then it’s safe to drop it.
I’m all for it. The Democrats have been a joke since they fucked Bernie. They’re terrible and don’t give a shit about their voters.
Oh, they were a joke long before that. In 2006, when we went from having a congress that rubber stamped everything Bush wanted to a congress that said they were displeased with Bush as they rubber stamped everything he wanted.
I don’t know much about the US politics before 2010, that’s when I migrated to the US.
Basically anything was approved as long as it was framed as national security.
The terrorists won with 9/11
To be clear to the naysayers: It’s not that we’re angry Bernie got fucked, it is what it is. We’ve just seen the writing on the wall SINCE he got screwed over.
Also we’re a little angry.
Or, now hear me out, Socialism.
Absolutely. Just don’t use that word. The propaganda is so goddamn ingrained in the American psyche we might as well just call it something else and try to bypass that fight.
The freedom to eat, the freedom to earn a fair day’s pay for a fair day’s honest work, the freedom to afford a house, the freedom from wall street usury, the freedom patriotically build secure and supportive communities, freedom healthcare, protecting the landscape of the greatest country on earth for all of America’s generations to come, etc.
Loads of ways to spin free market socialism, take your pick.
It’s just a branding problem that needs a more modern name for today’s modern voter
Democracy+
Democracy McDemocracyFace
Buddy Democracy
Msilaicos
Ocialismsay
Hand companies over to their workers, call it supercapitalism, and Americans will eat that shit up
“Blue collar capitalism”
“true capitalism” or some shit
Disparage actual capitalism for not being capitalist enough, and do an Indiana Jones hot swap for the actual end goal of worker ownership.
Seriously, don’t use that word haha. We don’t need another “Red Scare”
The Red Scare never ended, it’s important to directly combat anti-socialist sentiment because you are going to be labeled a Communist even if you call yourself a mild progressive.
Or rebrand socialism and push it in a more efficient way.
Rebrand it as patriotism.
Why rebrand what already exists? What way would be more “efficient?”
On the contrary, we should use the words Socialism and Communism loudly and proudly. The less stigamtized these words are the easier the fight for progress.
Absolutely. I have an introductory Marxist reading list if you want to check it out.
Good. A party that is not beholden to its constituents has no business running for office.
Not to be cheeky, but the DNC has a business in running for office, and is beholden to its constituents, it’s just that its constituents are the wealthy Capitalists that donate to the DNC and essentially buy policy, not the working class.
Fuck the Democrats.
After that piss poor performance and immediate “we’re going to just do it again” what do they think people are going to bother getting out for?
Run Harris and the same shit again and get fewer votes than last time dipshits I don’t care.
Edit also to clarify I mean the DNC/ party leaders not voters. But fuck me too lol
We need a new party and not the Green Party.
A new one.
Why?
Or reconstruct the whole damn government. Entire thing is fucked
Marxists have continued to be correct, revolution is a necessity to bring about the interests of the working class. I have an introductory Marxist reading list if you want to check it out.
Are these the same union leaders who backed Trump, because while they’re right about the need for reconstruction, I’d like to exclude any fascists from the effort.
Just assume they are because they want Democrats to change in favor of workers.
I’m always skeptical of any Trump voter who is “pro-worker”. I assume they exclusively support workers who are straight, white, cisgender, and xtian…
Does the article call them trumpers, or do you just assume that about anyone who wants the party to change?
The leader of the Teamsters Union spoke at the modern day Nüremberg rally known as the RNC.
While a lot of tribalist Democrats tend to equate any criticism of Dem leadership with trumpism, that might not be what’s happening this time 🤷
While I wish them luck, the DNC is structured in a manner that retains power for those with the best ability to secure donations, and these donations come overwhelmingly from wealthy Capitalists. Moving the DNC to a more progressive platform has been the project of Bernie and the Squad for decades, and it seems to have little impact on the broader party line. The DNC isn’t really organized in a democratic manner, it operates more like a business.
Workers should instead focus on rapidly expanding their own organizations, which does make a meaningful impact on policy adopted. If you have something to bring to the bargaining table, the DNC is more likely to play ball, but you have to make them do it.
Precisely! The DNC is a fundraising organization, full stop. Been that way since the 80s.
Since well before then, if you ask me, haha.
Better to make workers parties at local and state levels and try to get a foothold in the system. Force the Democrats to move left or get outta the way.
The Greens have been trying to do that for decades, the system itself is hostile to outsider movements, and as such organizing outside the electoral system has more room to grow and more levers to push for change.
I wouldn’t mind it honestly.
