Europe won’t be able to finance Ukraine’s defenses against Russia’s invasion on its own if the US withdraws support under Donald Trump’s next presidency, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban said Friday.

Orban said recent events vindicated the conclusions from his controversial July diplomatic mission to Kyiv, Moscow and Beijing and showed Ukraine was losing the war.

“The Americans are going to get out of this war,” Orban, who is hosting a European Union summit in Budapest on Friday, said on public radio. “Europe can’t finance this war on its own.”

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  • JaggedRobotPubes@lemmy.world
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    Don’t put a shithead’s message in the headline. It spreads it. Headlines must be true, not false.

    Look up George Lakoff videos, everybody.

  • Hirom@beehaw.org
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    Says the man always dragging his feet when time comes to support Ukraine’s self-defense

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    Once again, Orban says exactly what Putin wants him to say

    At some point it becomes malicious to even print what he says

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      There is an unfortunate reality that there is a tipping point. At some point, Europe will need to cede Ukraine and stock up for itself to defend the next Russian incursion.

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        Yeah the best way to discourage a revanchist is to give him what he wants. Succeeding in Ukraine will definitely convince Putin not to attack the baltics, poland, or finland.

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          If NATO is really as effective as it’s claimed to be, then the baltics, Poland, and Finland have nothing to worry about.

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        I disagree, Europe needs to never cede Ukraine at any cost—anything else is rewarding the warmonger

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          If the US allows Israel to annex the North of Gaza like it allowed it to annex the Golan Heights, Russia can just point to that as precedent and evidence of US double standards.

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          I disagree, Europe needs to never cede Ukraine at any cost—anything else is rewarding the warmonger

          Yeah, why would Europe do that? After all its Ukrainians who will continue dying after being kidnapped off the streets and forbidden to leave the country.
          Enjoy your life, and don’t think of hundreds of thousands dead people (not like you ever did that of course)…

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    He’s wrong of course, Europe’s economy is many times stronger than Russia’s. The real question is if they can find the collective will to defend themselves.

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      Europe’s militaries right now can just Desert Storm Russia, probably in time for Christmas. They don’t want to pay the human cost, however negligible it is in comparison to what Ukraine has already paid.

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      The Americans aren’t in the war. They’re just dealing in arms.

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      I hope the Russians get out of it as it has hurt them the most.