Ugh these people suck so bad. On average, western leftists are worse than useless. Some bullet points are kinda interesting, even if annoying.

  • intresteph@discuss.online
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    16 days ago

    I have a feeling that maga is gonna love that text when defending trump. They aren’t defending the authoritarian, they’re just celebrating his accomplishments!

    No authority is the best authority.

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          16 days ago

          Do you take any negative reception to your comments as proof of whatever point you are trying to make? If you have a criticism to make in a public forum, shouldn’t you reasonably expect a response that might likewise be critical?

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          16 days ago

          Is this the first time you come to any forum and start pissing and shitting all over the place?

          Try to mildly criticize western anarchists or liberals and I guarantee that you will get dogpiled immediately.

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              Well, firstly, you need to check your eyesight, because at the very least I am not a westerner.

              Secondly, in case you couldn’t understand a sentence worth of text, I suggested you go to a western anarchist or liberal forum and try to antagonise them. You will get swarmed and dogpiled right that instant.

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          15 days ago

          Me when I see a community of people supporting eachother: “Wow, glad I’m not like those people! I’ve got no one and am all alone, which proves that I am living a healthy life. Very rude of them to ask me about my opinion, especially when I can’t explain it. Anyway back to my thousands of online accounts I maintain so I can argue with strangers online. And by argue I mean insult people who keep asking me politely to please explain what it is I believe. This will deal a massive blow to the vague concept of authority somehow. Also the US is a force for good and I need to support it.”

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      15 days ago

      You clearly lack reading comprehension. The quoted text is not trying to draw some distinction between “defending” and “celebrating one’s accomplishments” and say that the former is bad while the latter is fine. What it does do is point out that the common attack on socialism that accuses actually existing socialist states of being totalitarian hellholes and important historic socialist leaders of being dictators is a load of shit; using a consistent standard to compare them to their contemporaries would reveal that socialism accomplished many wonders starting from extremely difficult conditions and that most “democratic” leaders are far more monstrous than even the nastiest tales cooked up about Stalin and Mao.

      Among what I just said and some other things, it makes a point that is very pertinent to this discussion: the characterization of tankies as “uncritically defending authoritarian regimes/dictators” (as asserted by the zine from the OP) and detesting literally all dissent regardless of what the content of that dissent might be (as you asserted) is also a load of shit that depends on treating socialist experiments as radioactive failures that are entirely bad and not worth defending. Tankies are perfectly capable of recognizing and criticizing the mistakes those experiments actually made; the commonly hurled criticisms are torn apart because they are factually wrong and made in bad faith.

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      15 days ago

      Lmao “what if the text said something other than what it said and it was about MAGA instead?” also authoritarianism is made up by the totalitarian CIA you uneducated dork 1 2
      We both know you’re not gonna read this either though, it’s above your grade.