• InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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    20 days ago

    r/politics thread

    The top comment surprised me.

    This is a recurring historical trend. Right wing socioeconomic policies (laissez-faire capitalism) lead to social dysfunction as more and more people either fall into poverty or fear doing so. The mainstream right can’t win elections on these policies any more because they have become unpopular, but rather than change those it either allies or becomes the extremist right (authoritarian and reactionary), going all in on distractions and scapegoating.

    This leaves the social liberals (pro-capitalist but not socially conservative) and the social democrats as the only democratic factions to counter them, but the former block most major re-distributive policies and even the most moderate moves towards a fairer society have to be fought over tooth and nail. This alliance (either as intra-party in a two party or as a coalition in multiparty systems) then fails to do enough to keep their voters on board, disillusionment sets in, voters stay home and the extremist right takes over.

    Fortunately, it doesn’t always completely run through this cycle, but it keeps happening. It has now happened to the USA and the best case scenario is that when those lukewarm Trump supporters are angry at not getting what they wanted out of this “change” (and they won’t), they will still have the means to vote the government out. If not, then you’re stuck until a revolution happens.

    Arguing that more social democracy would have scared away voters is sort of pointless IMHO, because if that is true then you’re doomed anyway. Unless you lower economic inequality through government policy, a descent into reactionary authoritarianism is inevitable because democracy can only work when people are more or less equal and capitalism left to itself will always concentrate wealth and power into fewer hands.

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    A top-level comment

    Ding Ding Ding.

    He isn’t gonna call the electorate in the US goldfish who vote based on the price of bread.

    But the US electorate is a bunch of goldfish who vote based on the price of bread.

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      20 days ago

      Why is voting on the price of bread seen as irrational. The spiralling costs of food was one of the most direct issues facing the majority of workers in the last 4 years and refusing to campaign on real policies to resolve that is just plain fucking stupid.

      Even Trump, the so called out of touch TV billionaire actually used the inflation of living costs to criticize the incumbent government and even if he didn’t give anything to fix it, neither did Kamala “I’m not gonna be different” Harris

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    21 days ago

    Maybe he saw the “Where did that bring you?” posts.